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chucklerich New user 90 Posts 
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Trying to get loaded up with Kennedy halves for extensive Okito box work. Where can I get 1-10 rolls of Kennedy halves without paying a premium for shipping or condition etc. Also can you recommend an alternative coin that could be cheaper(not replicas, or palming coins).
I've been using a "Chinese LUOHANQIAN" set to practice Okito with. But I am just getting tired of practicing and not wanting to go out with the expensive set just to lose one of the coins and have to pay another $45USD just to have enough coins to practice Okito, Want to start doing Okito in public and relax and enjoy the hobby without worrying about losing coins. Everything else about Okito box work is affordable to get into and to practice,but everywhere I look to buy these (including ebay I would end up paying close to 4x their street value just to have enough coins to not fear losing some. Just as a note: I use half dollar sized coins because they fit better with my hand size... french dropping these is extremely natural to me and I rarely stumble with the coins. I tried learning with Eisenhower Dollars but 1. few people have ever seen one of those in the wild. 2. They are too big for me to hide a stack of these in my hand like I need to in Okito work. 
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karnak Special user Connecticut 750 Posts
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You might consider using old English pennies as a possibly cheaper alternative, if you shop around a bit and find a source from whom you can buy a small bundle of them for less than the cost of an equal number of half dollars.
They are about the same diameter as halves — just a hair bigger, but still fit in most if not all Okito boxes. They’re thinner, too. Whereas only four half dollars fit in my Okito box, five English Pennines will fit equally well.
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GJo Loyal user 283 Posts
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For 90% silver Kennedy 1964 half dollars, I would contact a local coin dealer. They will probably sell them for spot silver price, which is generally the lowest price you will find.
Here's a source that charges about $10/ea for a roll of 20 Kennedy 1964 half dollars. That's what you should expect to pay from a dealer. They also have clad Kennedy halves. https://sdbullion.com/catalogsearch/resu......S+SILVER |
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chucklerich New user 90 Posts
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On Jan 31, 2024, GJo wrote: You missed the point of my question. I am looking for a quantity of Kennedy halves I can buy WITHOUT paying a premium. I am not wanting them for a coin collection but MERELY to perform Okito Box effects without worrying about losing any in public. |
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chucklerich New user 90 Posts
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On Jan 31, 2024, karnak wrote: Ok,I did that for years but English Pennies don't show up well when performing in low light conditions. And they don't have as good a contrast against each other as Kennedy halves do. And then you have this constant need to keep polishing them every few days to keep them looking bright, They are a huge headache overall. |
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GJo Loyal user 283 Posts
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On Jan 31, 2024, chucklerich wrote: From your reply, I will assume you're looking for clad Kennedy halves, although YOU DIDN'T SPECIFY these in your post. Clad Kennedy's cost a little less than $4/ea from the bullion dealer. Yes, that seems like a premium to me, but I've not done any shopping for clad Kennedy halves since the last time I asked for them in my local bank about 9 months ago (they didn't have any). For clad Kennedy halves, I'd recommend calling local banks. One of them may have a stash. Happy hunting. I hope you find what you're looking for! |
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Andy Young Special user Jersey Shore, PA 823 Posts
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I get them from my local banks.
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2356 Posts
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Check you bank.
I believe they're making them for general circulation again. If they don't have any, they should be able to order them. |
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JoeHohman Special user Erie 712 Posts
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Piling on: make friends with your bank tellers. It might take them a few weeks to pull together 10 rolls. (Why do you need 10 ROLLS? In fact, why do you need 10 halves? Five to six should be more than enough....)
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tonsofquestions Inner circle 1813 Posts
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Whoops, I'd also written a response, but apparently forgot to hit submit.
I can't tell from the first post if it's really meant to be "1-10 rolls" or just coins. Do yo need up to 200 coins for fear of losing them? At that scale clad seems self evident, and the best answer (as others have said) is the bank. You'll pay face value. 50 cents per coin, $10 per roll. Not all will have them, but if you need that many, you can ask them to order. You can also get them direct from the mint - you have minimum quantities (that you might meet) and a small shipping cost, but the coins themselves will at least be at face value. As far as other currencies go, while English Pennies are often inexpensive compared to other coins, they're rarely less than a dollar each - and that's at a good price rather than from a magic dealer with a markup. You can't do better than the clad halves (in real coins) if price is your #1. |
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Mb217 Inner circle 9538 Posts
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You got the best of answers here, the bank is the way to all you need. And as to need, I have had just a $10 little roll (20 coins). For maybe 20years now I’ve been playing with the same coins. Just came across the old roll the other day and there was still 4 halves in there.
 The rest are scattered around here from my journey with them this way and that, a few always left in a coat or jacket pocket for anywhere I go. For just about a $2 toll (4 or 5 coins) it will take you many, many good & magical miles from here to there and even a bit further down this way, that & the other. 
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Craig Ousterling Special user 585 Posts
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Even the US mint wants a premium. If you end up finding a large quantity without paying a premium PLEASE let the rest of us know.
https://catalog.usmint.gov/kennedy-2023-......3KA.html |
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karnak Special user Connecticut 750 Posts
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A 47% premium, at that!
So the US Mint wants nearly an extra quarter for each half dollar you acquire from them? How is it even legal that a fifty-cent piece of legal tender, fresh from the government who made it (and officially declared and labeled it as worth exactly fifty cents) actually costs nearly seventy-five cents — just because it comes straight from its source, instead of from somebody’s pocket or cash register?
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chucklerich New user 90 Posts
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On Feb 2, 2024, karnak wrote: Yes that is ironic. |
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chucklerich New user 90 Posts
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On Feb 2, 2024, Mb217 wrote: The reasons I want so many are: 1. To use multiple okito boxes (I have a presentation I designed some years ago that use 3 boxes where coins switch from box to box) 2.zero worries about losing them from: A. Being dropped and rolling under tables in restaurants or under parked cars in the street etc.(irretrievably lost from drops) B. People who see I am working with legal tender coins and decide to pocket some on me while in the middle of my letting them do the cursory examination before during or after the effect and simply walk away with them. C. My own absentmindedly forgetting to pack the coins away after securing my okito boxes(because as a human being I make A LOT of mistakes). 3. The ability to give away one to a spectator(if I can tell they really enjoyed the performance) as a souvenir. |
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chucklerich New user 90 Posts
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On Feb 2, 2024, Craig Ousterling wrote: Thank you Kindly, and yes If I find an alternate source I will share the info, I'm guessing the extra cost there would be shipping and insurance, which does seem reasonable overall. Also they seem to have a 2 roll yearly subscription for a 2 roll set(but then the premium is like 72%) |
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Ihop Inner circle Glen Spey, NY 1604 Posts
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I get my Kennedy coins from a local bank. I got 40 halves for $20.
I also get a pile of $2 bills. You may have to order the bills in advance.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9538 Posts
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On Feb 3, 2024, chucklerich wrote: I see…Well, simple enough to double it and get $20 worth (40 coins) from the exact same source. Seems that should take care of all your extra worries and needs here.
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karnak Special user Connecticut 750 Posts
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[quote]On Feb 3, 2024, chucklerich wrote:
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I'm guessing the extra cost there would be shipping and insurance, which does seem reasonable overall. The US Mint ad seems to suggest that shipping is extra (since it's included only with a subscription).
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Presarian New user 50 Posts
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Don't penguin sells it as well.
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Posted: Jan 31, 2024 04:24 pm 