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On Jan 3, 2024, Mason Harney wrote:
Put Blu tac both sides of the housed shell and you will get it out after a bit of trying M



Thanks,
I even tried using two magnets on both sides to pull apart and it still didn't budge.
And it was a very tiny piece of dbl stick tape, not a big piece....but its holding strong!

TMC


Super glue a grabbable object to each side and allow to completely dry. Pull apart and then break them off and sand down after.
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Perhaps heating using a blow dryer will soften the tape.
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Perhaps heating using a blow dryer will soften the tape.


Yeah, I was thinking about this...JUst need to loosen the tape a bit....The 2 magnets I have on either side are pulling like crazy....i'm shocked that this gimmick hasnt opened up.
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Hair blower NO GO...didnt loosen.
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Anybody here from Germany who have received their item?


I didn’t received mine yet.
Status didn’t changed - still in transit to DHL (for weeks) - very strange.
HC Team told me last week to look into it…


Same status as mine , onward transport to DHL since 21st December
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Perhaps heating using a blow dryer will soften the tape.


Yeah, I was thinking about this...JUst need to loosen the tape a bit....The 2 magnets I have on either side are pulling like crazy....i'm shocked that this gimmick hasnt opened up.


I think using the tape may be a good idea if the movement bothers anyone, but based on your experience obviously one needs to remove a bit more of the stickiness or use a repositionable tape.
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Perhaps heating using a blow dryer will soften the tape.


Yeah, I was thinking about this...JUst need to loosen the tape a bit....The 2 magnets I have on either side are pulling like crazy....i'm shocked that this gimmick hasnt opened up.


I think using the tape may be a good idea if the movement bothers anyone, but based on your experience obviously one needs to remove a bit more of the stickiness or use a repositionable tape.



yES DEFINITELY! Right now I'm still trying to figure out how to get it apart. 2 MAGNETS on either side is still not working. Looks like I might have to tell my nephew it's junk now! Such a shame.
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It's definitely not junk, so don't give up on it! As others have said, there are a number of different methods to work on getting it apart. Patience and creativity win out when it comes to these things!
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Freezing will also reduce the adhesive ability of the tape (and doesn't affect the M*****s, in fact the opposite}.

Also, as mentioned, when pulling apart be as far away from where the tape was placed as you can to add some leverage into the mix.

If freezing doesn't work then maybe stick some strong double sided tape either side of the thin tip end of the key and then stick the magnets to these slivers of tape. This should give you extra purchase when pulling apart and the tape and any glue residue can always be removed with some isopropyl alcohol afterwards.

Good luck, I hope you get a result, echoing that patience and perseverance is the key.
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Finally got mine today and as others have said the quality is top notch Smile
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Https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FG......5U&psc=1

Is this the correct Blu Tac?

Thanks in advance,
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Perhaps heating using a blow dryer will soften the tape.


This method should work.
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Perhaps heating using a blow dryer will soften the tape.


This method should work.



Tried the hair blower and freezing
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Completely soak the key in solvent, it will break down the tapes adhesive. Maybe every few hours, do your normal prying, that will allow some of the solvent to make its way across the tape. May have to soak 24+ hours, but this will guaranteed do the trick Smile
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Completely soak the key in solvent, it will break down the tapes adhesive. Maybe every few hours, do your normal prying, that will allow some of the solvent to make its way across the tape. May have to soak 24+ hours, but this will guaranteed do the trick Smile



What kind of solvent?

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Completely soak the key in solvent, it will break down the tapes adhesive. Maybe every few hours, do your normal prying, that will allow some of the solvent to make its way across the tape. May have to soak 24+ hours, but this will guaranteed do the trick Smile


But don’t you also run the risk of detaching the magnet inside the shell?
I guess if so you could glue it back in. But there is a sticker inside as well, of course that may come out with the tape anyway.

Seems like using 2 magnets might just be fighting each other. Use the ds tape to stick the shell securely to a clean, smooth surface and then more tape on the opposite side. Or if you have a wide variety of magnets as many magicians do you can combine them to increase the magnetic pull. I have several large flat N52 disc magnets that I’m sure would get it out.

But what I don’t understand was how much tape was used? Doesn’t seem like a couple small pieces of standard ds tape would adhere with such power. I want some of whatever superpowered tape was used for other purposes.
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Completely soak the key in solvent, it will break down the tapes adhesive. Maybe every few hours, do your normal prying, that will allow some of the solvent to make its way across the tape. May have to soak 24+ hours, but this will guaranteed do the trick Smile


But don’t you also run the risk of detaching the magnet inside the shell?
I guess if so you could glue it back in. But there is a sticker inside as well, of course that may come out with the tape anyway.

Seems like using 2 magnets might just be fighting each other. Use the ds tape to stick the shell securely to a clean, smooth surface and then more tape on the opposite side. Or if you have a wide variety of magnets as many magicians do you can combine them to increase the magnetic pull. I have several large flat N52 disc magnets that I’m sure would get it out.

But what I don’t understand was how much tape was used? Doesn’t seem like a couple small pieces of standard ds tape would adhere with such power. I want some of whatever superpowered tape was used for other purposes.


It was only a tiny sliver of double stick tape that was put in that's what's so perplexing. The two magnets would not be fighting each other it actually makes the pull have more strength. I've also added several magnets and combine them to add more strength to no avail.
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Tape tends to be most strong in the direction perpendicular to the surface - and weaker in shear (if you're peeling it).
So yes, it's surprising (and also not what I would expect) but you're also trying to detach it in just the hardest way.

The magnet inside the shell is probably OK - because it's covered by the sticker. Which I was also going to point out, but at the same time ... it might be in trouble anyway because of the tape on it.
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Anyone else not receive the magnet? I got the deluxe package and both boxes just have an empty space where the magnet should be.


I am sorry to hear that especially since one of the reasons for the orders getting shipped late was because they wanted to be sure of the quality.
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Thanks. Yeah it was a bit annoying, but I actually found one in my box of random stuff (junk hoard!), and it seems to be exactly the same thing so all good!

Regarding the gimmick itself though it's definitely excellent quality and they nest beautifully. Looking forward to performing this soon. Smile