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Kimura
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The second printing is happening!
https://www.gamblingsleightofhand.com/

For those who already received your copies, what are you working on? Or, what sections are you reading?

So far I've been playing with some of the strip cut concepts, the "natural break" on the top stock control, and the table break-off (my favorite of the mucks I've seen on video). I plan on finally reading the Erdnase chapter tomorrow, to see what the fuss is about.

How bout you?
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Trying not to skip around, but I have checked on certain things I have always wondered about-the tabled break off for instance. I also love his push-trough motion, noe of the tell tale signs of it, no odd out with the elbows thing.

Im with you on the erdnase thing, I am going to read it tonight as well. The riffle stacking and deals are wayyy down the road for me...

curious, what autographed card did everyone get?

(and why did they delete the thread...?)
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I read the introduction and now it's a free for fall, for me... whatever comes to mind, I just skip to it...
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The erdnase chapter is a long read. One night may not be enough depending on your level of commitment.

There is a lot there to digest.

I've been going over it for the last three days.
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I am also trying to read the volumes in as linear way as possible. I am practicing an ace cutting routine from the stunts section, just couldn’t resist and it is fantastic. When Jason England talked about the Volumes taking years of study, I felt very skeptical. I’m now on the second ‘false deals’ chapter of Volume one and I’ve already stalled on page 64 trying to take in and practice the ideas up to this point. I think if done thoroughly it actually will take years to properly master Smile
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Have been going through it, in order, with cards in hand. (Noting sections that I will be coming back to for more work.) Pretty much every page has a significant revelation. Sometimes areas I had wondered about, sometimes things I never dreamed were an issue.

Just made it to the push through section. (My favorite shuffle.)

I'm embarrassed to say I never did study Erdnase much. Besides reading Ortiz's work on the subject I have always learned the technique necessary to do a new routine that caught my eye. And ignored most of everything else. As a result the section on Erdanse in Mr. Forte's new book hasn't been a selling point for me. But I gotta admit I'm starting to get curious what all the hub-bub is about.
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On Mar 2, 2020, rnaviaux wrote:
Pretty much every page has a significant revelation. Sometimes areas I had wondered about, sometimes things I never dreamed were an issue.


This was the biggest surprise to me so far. I think a lot of the things regarding strip cuts and shuffles were a revelation to me, I wasn't expecting to change my handling at such fundamental level.

I've given up on reading in order. I'm still doing so, and have my bookmark in the first book. I'm also just getting to the full deck section. However, I keep getting distracted and end up somewhere else. So, I'm using the two bookmark method for now, lol
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I've given up on reading in order. I'm still doing so, and have my bookmark in the first book. I am also just getting to the full deck section. However, I keep getting distracted and end up somewhere else. So, I'm using the two bookmark method for now, lol [/quote]

I completely with you on this Kimura. I am so tempted press on and dip in and out of the pages and chapters but I am staying strong......just
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I saw some posts regarding a subreddit on the books but I can't find them now. Did that ever happen, and if so how can a body find it?
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@Marlin

It is mentioned in the "what happened to the forte thread" thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/forteyears
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Thanks shahin.
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On Mar 3, 2020, Paul H wrote:
I've given up on reading in order. I'm still doing so, and have my bookmark in the first book. I am also just getting to the full deck section. However, I keep getting distracted and end up somewhere else. So, I'm using the two bookmark method for now, lol


With regard to whether readers will read from cover-to-cover or jump around, here's what Steve wrote under the title "Experienced Cardmen" on page 1050 (Volume Two):

“Experienced cardmen – if they’re like me – will probably bounce around from move to move and stunt to stunt before settling down and reading the books from beginning to end, assuming they find the research interesting.”
"If all a man can count on is finally pushing up the grass, when I do I'll lay you odds that grass is mine!" - Theme Song For The T.V. Series BRET MAVERICK, by Ed Bruce
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Hi all, I am trying to collect some valuable material on gambling sleight of hand, I be open to suggestions on where to learn.
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Arnold's facebook club.
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...you are in that Tommy? I guess I’ve missed that
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On Mar 9, 2020, Fove52 wrote:
Hi all, I am trying to collect some valuable material on gambling sleight of hand, I be open to suggestions on where to learn.



This thread you are in is talking about a book that sounds right up your alley. And it’s certainly valuable Smile
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Oh, I thought it wasn't about Steve forte's book, but the actual topic, my bad!
His new book might be out of my price range though.
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No - we are just in our Boogie Woogie club.

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On Mar 9, 2020, Fove52 wrote:
Oh, I thought it wasn't about Steve forte's book, but the actual topic, my bad!
His new book might be out of my price range though.


Jason England's Foundation dvds/downloads are a bit more available, financially speaking. Same for Sal Piacente.
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I just checked out Jason England's DVD's. I've looked into his work before, but every time I see him do a move it's pure perfection. Anyway, thanks for the info.