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On Dec 10, 2019, Ustaad wrote: I think you missed Mark's point. Read the first line here carefully: https://geniimagazine.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tony_Anverdi :) BTW, the info at that link states that Murphy's Magic purchased the rights to Anverdi's catalog of effects in September 2010. I don't know if Marc Antoine created his Mental Dice with Murphy's Magic's blessing but, it sure does appear that Murphy's has been the rights holder for almost a decade. Mark
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10800 Posts
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I think the point is Tony has passed on so.
And that point I’m actually curious as to who did the engineering on this?
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the Sponge Inner circle Atlanta 2780 Posts
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On Dec 10, 2019, Magic Mark wrote: Did the other electronic die sellers get Murphy's blessing? Did Murphy's get Antoine's blessing to copy his idea? (three different colored die with visual receiver)? Anverdi's was a single, large die in a black box. Why did this really take so long to come out? The tech has been there. Rechargeable RD has been around for a while. China is spitting them out. Just make them different colors. The Ad copy is a bunch of BS. oh, and on the demo the first thing the spectators say is "What's special about these dice?" (or close) Other than that, can't wait to get mine! s |
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On Dec 10, 2019, saysold1 wrote: Haven’t had time to watch Murphy’s video but I quickly skimmed through it and I think they may discuss the person behind it. I could be wrong though but it’s worth checking out the video. I agree with Ustaad's point though, a thumper will probably be a follow up add on product at some point in the future (even if it’s not created by Anverdi himself.) |
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elimagic Inner circle 1664 Posts
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Like a few others have said, this looks great.... if you have a need for 3 different dice. For me, at the moment, I don’t and i’ve been very happy with my rdr from craig. As drew points out, a non visual cue is far superior, at least for my uses as I can look where it matters, at the spectator, or have someone blindfold me, etc. In a cocktail hour setting, in a dimly lit room, the last thing I want to be doing is orchestrating a “moment” to get a peek that could be noticed by someone else. I’m sure it could be done if needed, but for my uses, a physical cue will always win out. On stage, definitely less of an issue if the routine you have in mind needs 3 different colored dice then I say go for it.
I will say, though, i’ve used 2 different colored dice from craig on a physical cue on the same thumper and it was super easy. However to concede, 3 would require two thumpers and would definitely be significantly more challenging. (i’m imagining here as i’ve never needed 3 dice) I think this is a great budget option by the looks of it. I will stick with craig’s perfect solution 
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ash2arani Special user 923 Posts
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While I love PM's take on this and I still use it, I find it quite amusing to say that a non-visual queue is far superior when as mentalists, we have made an art from using all sorts of peeks and we continue to explore this technique. A visual cue that takes 2 seconds is much better in my opinion a non-visual cue that takes 10+ seconds in certain contexts. It is all in how one routines it and what are the requirements for the particular performance piece.
Another issue I see here is the 3 dice complaint. David Kenney already illustrated few uses and the cool thing with 3 dice, is that one has more options compared to one. For me, I love having options and this looks great. The only thing they need to match with this release is Craig's excellent customer service (along with reliability) which is why people keep going back to PM. |
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M Pitcher Elite user Around the block 432 Posts
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To the silly argument of Marc Antoine being the originator of the three dice version;
If someone has the rights for one die, then they have the rights for infinite dice. BUT Those who have zero rights for zero dice, they can’t have any. MP |
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videoman Inner circle 6778 Posts
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On Dec 10, 2019, DavidKenney wrote: For a seemingly simple effect, this has to be the most complicated use of this device that I’ve ever heard of. I can’t imagine trying to give instructions for that to a spec and how many of them are going to get it wrong if they roll a number larger than 3. Then even if everything goes right you’ve taken a 1 in 6 trick and turned it into a 1 in 2 trick. Oh wait, I just got it, that was a joke. I’m really slow tonight.
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On Dec 10, 2019, Anverdi-museum wrote: Thanks, Chuck! Say, did anyone at Murphy's mention the idea of providing a vibration/thumper receiver in the future? Mark
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Impressed with Penguin. Ordered last night, got my tracking by FedEx and it'll be with me Thursday by 12pm. So far, I'm about 30 quid up savings wise...let's see if I dodge import duty..
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Phatmeat Special user Silver Spring, Maryland 755 Posts
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I wonder what sort of lifespan these will have. I guess only time will tell.
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts
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From what Murphy's told me - they have owned the rights to the ANVERDI collection for years even during times when others were selling his ideas
The lifespan on these dice is anyone's guess, I asked Murphy's that same question and the answer I was given was "forever." The amount of performances per single charge is actually much higher than what is advertised. Just got through watching the teaching video last night - it's just pushing two hours long. I'll have a screen shot of the full menu in my review later today |
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hektormagic Veteran user 349 Posts
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Can dice be used for Which Hand effect (with PK ring on performers hand)? Do they react when are close to magnet as other similar dice from different manufacturers?
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paw Loyal user 265 Posts
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Hey Guys –
Patrick from Murphy’s here. Thanks for all your great comments! I wanted to address any confusion that may be out there pertaining to the Anverdi rights. Murphy’s Magic has owned the rights for around a decade. No one had asked us for permission to produce any of Anverdi’s products. In return, we have never asked (or received) any compensation whatsoever from anyone making them. Our mission was not only to put out the best product, but to give credit where credit is due. I was very surprised at how many people did not know Tony Anverdi had invented the following electronic products; MENTAL DICE, COLOR MATCH, SPIRIT BELL, TALKING SKULL, CARD BOX, KEY BOX, etc. The man was a genius and deserves all the credit... We all hope you enjoy the new Mental Dice by Tony Anverdi! P |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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Please do a talking skull!
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On Dec 11, 2019, paw wrote: Quick question, why was the original Murphy's release under Marc Antoine instead of Tony Anverdi? I mean, doesn't matter either way since you guys own the rights for Mental Dice but was just curious. |
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On Dec 11, 2019, kissdadookie wrote: Marc Antoine produces his version of Mental Dice and, for some period of time, he provided them to Murphy's Magic to distribute. According to a post that Marc made (last night) at his Facebook Group (for Dody Magic products), he no longer provides his Mental Dice to Murphy's Magic for distribution. He has been selling directly to magic dealers that wish to carry his product and, of course, selling it on his own website. Mark
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On Dec 11, 2019, paw wrote: ANY chance that Murphy's will produce a vibration/thumper receiver to work with Anverti Mental Dice? Mark
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On Dec 11, 2019, Magic Mark wrote: Ah, gotcha. They must have a good relationship then since Murphy's is not barking at Marc's door because they own the rights.
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Magic Mark Inner circle After this post I will have 1537 Posts
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Penguin Magic's site shows they are down to just 2 sets in stock. Some retailers are apparently already sold out.
I spoke with Hocus-Pocus this morning to make sure I placed my order before they sold out. Mine will ship today and he said they have about 20 sets left in stock. He said they ordered several hundred sets, so they've sold a ton of them. Mark
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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 03:17 am 