IncantoMagic
New user
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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 02:15 am
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Warning: This is a rant. Sorry about the tone in advance.
Some information that seems to have been lost throughout the years is the fact that the style of clown makeup that has become popular since the mid 1900s, and has become synonymous with "clowns" was designed for a very specific performance environment. The exaggerated features of this style of makeup were developed during the hay-day of Trainshows, that played in multi-ring tents, and later in arenas as Ringling brothers, Cole bros, etc carried on the traditions of this style of show. It was designed, such that someone sitting in the 30th row could see the features of the performer, and that the comedy would carry all the way through the venue.
This style of makeup was then taken by people who wanted to be clowns, outside of this circus setting, and without any historical context, they felt that imitating this style of makeup was the appropriate thing to do. that's "clown makeup" after all. That notion wasn't helped by large "clown" organizations in the US that have makeup competitions at their conventions and the lot. Many of the clowns who are a part of these organizations are not arena circus clowns. These people went into industries like children's entertainment, balloon twisting, etc, and anyone who has worn this style of makeup knows that when approaching people, be they children or adults, there is often a sense of unease. As you approach a group up close, often times these fears are set aside, by an adult in a group saying "oh, its a clown, honey, arent they funny", but the truth of the matter is that this style of clown makeup IS terrifying up close.
The caked on makeup. The persons wringles cracking through. They heavy eyeliner. The masked identity. The grotesque features. Its aweful.
And why do we think this is appropriate.
You look at professional clowns from circuses throughout north America and Europe. On most of the biggest shows in the world, the clowns don't have this style of makeup. Because clown isn't about the makeup, The makeup is a tool to accentuate expression and give identity.
You look at Bello Nock or Housch ma Housch, or Fumagali. Bill Irwin and David Shiner. David Larible hits a middle ground. Even if you go back decades, and look at George Carl. None of the Biggest names in Clowning in the world wear "clownface".
"Scary clowns" arent scaring children. "Scary clowns" arent pushing away the audience.
You are.
I'm not going to say do better makeup. Do SMARTER makeup. Do LESS makeup. You are playing a fool. Not someone who tripped and landed on a painter's pallet. Unless you trip and land on a painters pallet. That could be a good gag.
/rant
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TomB
Veteran user
Michigan, USA
331 Posts
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Posted: Jul 8, 2019 03:03 am
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I grew up with a Shriner as a friend of family. I was able to goto the Masonic Temple in Detroit as a kid and even visited the shriner hospital in Chicago (very humbling experience). I never thought that clown make up was scary. I always thought of circus clowns as FUN. I think the movie IT started the fear of clowns. Then kids hear their parents say, I'm afraid of clowns, then they pass on that fear. Little kids hear clowns are scary prior to ever even meeting one. Most kids that meet a clown without any prior preconceived notion will absolutely love clowns. I have a local clown that blows balloons for kids once a year at a nearby festival. My kids have no issue standing in line to get a balloon.
Not sure what cheap clown make up your clowns used but mehron clown make up is great!
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rossmacrae
Inner circle
Arlington, Virginia
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Posted: Dec 13, 2019 11:20 pm
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The customers fall for the "gotta look like Ringling" notion too - anything simpler and they won't pay.
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Russo
Inner circle
So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida
1177 Posts
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Posted: Dec 17, 2019 02:18 pm
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I was doing a show at a Shriners' Camp for MS Children, in mid performance a bus pulled up, several clowns poured out with 'yaaaaaaaaaah' -BAD reaction from the kids - several twitching (as MS kid will do when scared,surprised) - A slow, SHY clown, will do better than a Startling one. Before going anywhere, Amateur clowns should be taught/trained in being GENTLE.
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ccary
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Posted: Mar 24, 2022 01:49 am
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OP is so right. I see so much bad makeup and costuming. Clowning is about performance. Makeup and costume are relevant only to the extent they enhance the performance.
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poki
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Posted: Apr 12, 2022 02:29 am
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I think makeup plays an important part but I don't think its the only thing deciding if a clown or performer is scary. I've seen many scary performers who are not wearing clown makeup and many not-scary clowns wearing full clown makeup.
I did some kids shows with a big hand carved wooden red nose. I asked someone who I was performing with who had more clown experience than I if that nose could be too scary for the kids. He said the nose was fine that its just a "very slow nose", that while wearing it I should move very slow and that if I did the kids would love it and not be scared. He was right.
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ed rhodes
Inner circle
Rhode Island
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Posted: Aug 22, 2022 12:25 pm
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Quote: On Jul 8, 2019, TomB wrote:
I grew up with a Shriner as a friend of family. I was able to goto the Masonic Temple in Detroit as a kid and even visited the shriner hospital in Chicago (very humbling experience). I never thought that clown make up was scary. I always thought of circus clowns as FUN. I think the movie IT started the fear of clowns. Then kids hear their parents say, I'm afraid of clowns, then they pass on that fear. Little kids hear clowns are scary prior to ever even meeting one. Most kids that meet a clown without any prior preconceived notion will absolutely love clowns. I have a local clown that blows balloons for kids once a year at a nearby festival. My kids have no issue standing in line to get a balloon.
Not sure what cheap clown make up your clowns used but mehron clown make up is great!
The "It" TV-movie was 1990. "Killer Klowns From Outer Space" was 1988.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Russo
Inner circle
So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida
1177 Posts
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Posted: Nov 22, 2022 09:55 pm
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Did a Clown act from 1956 to 1983 - NO Problems - too bad someone had to spoil it. I will say, it depends upon the person being (?) a Clown - Once we were doing an outdoor show for a group of autistic children at a Shriner Camp (?) Everything went well until a bus load of Clowns (amateur) jumped out with a YAAAAAAAAAAAAA- scared the kids badly. Best to you who know how. RALPH (Wizzy, the Clown Wizard-retired) ROUSSEAU
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Good to here.