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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts 
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On Aug 2, 2015, dj wrote: Wow! Thank you for that. I must confess I have no clue... Les |
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts
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Nice - although the mechanics are different, it reminds me a bit of the Paul Harris invisible card from Art of Astonishment. I wouldn't call it strictly impromptu, but close enough. However, the discrepant move doesn't feel right to me, which is one thing I love about the Memorized deck version. The other advantage of the stack is the economy of motion since you know the card's location. Still, not a bad idea in a pinch. Thanks for sharing!
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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On Aug 2, 2015, sgtgrey wrote: I have to watch a bit more closely to catch the discrepancy. Just looked up the Invisible Rising Card, and it is similar to my favourite Invisible Card in Aronson's Try the Impossible. with the latter using the open index to make locating and controlling the selection easy. Les |
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Chad Collyer New user 5 Posts
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Has anyone tried the Ultra Mentally Challenged version in Eric Richardson's Tour? I read it last night and did some practice. Seems like a winner!
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts
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It certainly is interesting, but I use Mnemonica, so I've stuck with the Close version. I've thought about trying to find a way to adapt that one into Mnemonica, but haven't had time to do so.
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Jay Elf Elite user 466 Posts
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On Aug 2, 2015, dj wrote: Very good!!! ＠Jay＠ |
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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On Aug 3, 2015, Chad Collyer wrote: I purchased Tour ages ago and never looked that closely at it, being a Mnemonica guy. Ultra Mentally Challenged, on first read, seems to be amazing indeed. Alas, it counts on the Aronson stack to obscure certain discrepancies. I can see adapting it Mnemonica easily, while losing that advantage. I will study it more closely, but the Close effect, with or without the Steve Keyl face-down variation, seems more fit for me for now. Les |
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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On Aug 3, 2015, lcwright1964 wrote: I would also respectfully suggest that Steve's variant differs enough from the Close original as to be a different and very commercial effect, so I for one am thankful that he shares it with us gratis 
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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On Aug 3, 2015, lcwright1964 wrote: I have pondered this over the past few hours and I do think it can be done readily with Mnemonica provided that one doesn't mind dislocating a couple of cards from their original spots to provide the required discrepancy cover. (Indeed, this is no hardship--many of the stack-dependent effects in Mnemonica require dislocations and subsequent restorations of the stack, and Tamariz describes several ways to achieve this when it comes up.) I love the Tyler Wilson/Eric Richardson effect so far because the "move" is diabolical and happens in plain sight (!!!). The drawback is that the deck doesn't end up "clean" and the revelation is done in the performer's hands. The deck cannot be handed to the spectator or freely spread on a table lest a certain something is flashed. With the Close/Keyl version, a clean deck can be presented to the spectator once the move is done (even though, in my hands, that move is a little tougher). Les |
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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For Mnemonica users I think I have come up with an adaptation of the Wilson/Richardson Ultra Mentally Challenged that provides suitable cover for the discrepancy without major disruption to the stack or huge deviation from the original Aronson-stack-dependent version. PM me if interested.
Les P.S. This offer is intended for people who already own Tour or who otherwise know the original effect. I will just discuss the setup for Mnemonica, and not tip the whole effect. It costs basically peanuts to download Tour, and I think anyone who doesn't know the effect already won't regret splurging a few bucks to support Eric's work, which includes not only this but several other gems that individually are worth more than the cover price. |
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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Just wanted to report that I got some queries about my Mnemonica solution to Ultra Mentally Challenged, and it seems to have been well received. I am pleased with it.
I would like to respectfully suggest that the Wilson/Richardson effect presents us with the indetectable and easy Carlyle move, which can be adapted to the original Close effect and leave a deck that may be handed over for the spectator to examine and removed the reversed card. One does not have the advantage of a certain subtlety in the Ultra Mentally Challenged setup, but I really think that if one naturally and deftly executes the Carlyle move on the off beat the muggles will never notice and will believe afterward that they saw the entire deck face up with the single face down card all along... 
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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I was delighted to stumble across this in another thread. The ID effect is the first of the set. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Shoesmith is using the deck setup of the Mike Close version, combined with the Carlyle move of the Tyler/Richardson version. He has some great subtleties, in particular how he conceals the selected card from flashing, and his natural bringing attention to the backs of the cards more than once as perfect cover for the impeccably executed Carlyle move. I would've preferred he have a spectator spread the deck and remove the card, as Close does, but there is an understated and natural quality to this that conveys the illusion that there is no way the deck was in any way altered after removal from the box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sO6uVTQkWY |
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jeebs9 Regular user 190 Posts
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It's funny I just do a half pass with the selected card. And it always blows people away. But I always try to end with the CF. I like Doug McKenzie style of find the card in his pocket I know it's "not his". I just like how he does it.
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts
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Nice video find! There's some great thinking each step of the way there. More food for thought...
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Herr Brian Tabor Special user Oklahoma City 729 Posts
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I prefer Michael Close's ID with a memdeck. It's great that I don't have to carry an extra deck, and if I'm doing memdeck work I can go into it after a few other effects and not have to switch. Messes with those who know how the ID works too
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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Can someone tell what CF stands for, apart from the more famous military meaning? I thought it meant one thing from the context, but I am starting to doubt that now. Please IM with the answer if you don't want to tip it in this non-secret discussion.
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The_MetalMaster Veteran user Indiana 330 Posts
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Clean finish perhaps?
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Steven Keyl Inner circle Washington, D.C. 2630 Posts
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Les, I just think jeebs is talking about the classic force phase from the video and how he uses that same idea as his finale.
Steven Keyl - The Human Whisperer!
B2B Magazine Test! Best impromptu progressive Ace Assembly ever! "If you ever find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause, and reflect." --Mark Twain |
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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On Aug 15, 2015, Steven Keyl wrote: Well, duh... I did watch the whole routine too
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jeebs9 Regular user 190 Posts
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On Aug 15, 2015, Steven Keyl wrote: Exactly..... It usually hits really hard. Harder then most of the other phases in my opinion. I also do a phase where I magician fail a few times. Starting with a DL. And then asking them to either touch another card or put the card half way into the deck (whole still holding it). And then failing a few times. And then rifling the deck at them. And revealing that the card "jumped" into their hands. That's usually how I start. Kind of borrow from Green Lennart routine of fumbling the cards around or acting drunk. Hits hard! |
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