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soleil Loyal user 294 Posts |
Hello all!
I am looking for a jumbo or stage size version of the Pavels Silk Serenade Colour changing records. I mean about 14 inchs in diameter. I will be very grateful if you can point me to a magic shop which sells these. Thanks in advance. Best, Soleil
"Art is the Artist. The Artist is God."- Goete
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Do you know of this even being made in this size? I sure don't!
Silk Serenade is the color change of long playing records. I believe even real records only are 12 inches in diameter. This trick is pretty much dead due to the CD music industry change. I suggest you take the Silk Serenade 45 size record trick to a copy or printer store and have them enlarge the ones you have. They can make any changes you want to the records and then have them print it out on their large format printer. They will even plastic coat the card stock for you so it lasts longer. |
Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
I think Bill is correct. I have only seen these in 7" (standard 45 record size).
Mister Mystery
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
I lost my buddy Pavel last year and I have two sets of Silk Serenade I can use with "vintage" audiences.
Like the others, I have no reason to believe that true Silk Sernade is available in a larger size. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander PS --- We are getting nearer Pavel's birthday of April 4th. He would be 67. |
Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
Bob, I hear what you're saying. I have a set of Pavel's, "Silk Serenade" for sale, but I use the color-changing records regularly. In fact, I use them as part of one of my favorite closing routines. I Because the records are "outdated" is actually what makes them work for this particular routine. I actually turned that fact onto a plus for me.
Mister Mystery
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soleil Loyal user 294 Posts |
Thank you very much! I will follow thé advice and will make bigger ones based on the original model.
Best, Soleil
"Art is the Artist. The Artist is God."- Goete
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Brent McLeod Inner circle 1792 Posts |
I recently used Silk Serenade to music in a Rock & Roll themed piece-"Rock around the clock", I played up the part of the rocker.
The audience of about 400 was older but the records once changed colour were put on a visible stand and it played really well. It was the first time in over 20 years I had used it-Great fun. |
Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Last night I watch Silk Serenade being used in a competition!
Bob Sanders Magic By Sander PS --- He came in at second place! |
Anatole Inner circle 1913 Posts |
For those who do Silk Serenade or any of its variants, a couple of tips I've come up with over the years:
1) I made a Himber LP record album cover. You know, the kind of album cover that opens like a book. A lot of Broadway LPs came that way. I made one that, as I suggest, used the Himber wallet principle. Open one way, it had clear acetate half-pockets that held the black 45rpm records. I removed them, did the color changes, and then replaced them into the open album cover. Close the album cover and say "Hocus Pocus" and then re-open it to show a 7-inch rainbow record. (I made my 7-inch rainbow record from an old 7-inch "Teach Yourself French" vinyl record set.) 2) I did my patter along the lines of a "Name That Tune" category, humming "Red Roses for a Blue Lady," "The Yellow Rose of Texas," and "Call Me Mr, Blue." I used the version sold I think by Tricks Ltd that used a heavier, shinier finish on the 45s. I also bought two sets and glued them together to give the 45s more body. (I always thought they looked a little flimsy as they come from the dealer.) I also performed the color changes with a kind of one-hand Ascanio-spread. For the climax, I would re-insert the three now colorful records into their transparent acetate pockets, close the album cover, make a magical gesture... and then reopen the album cover to show one giant, rainbow record. ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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Jimmy Joza Special user New York City 760 Posts |
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On 2012-03-16 23:18, Anatole wrote: Very cool, Sonny. Nice idea with the himber style lp cover. The color changing and finale you mention remind me somewhat of color changing wreaths (which I like to perform, especially with kids). Thanks for sharing.
"Those who simply walk in others' tracks leave no footprints."
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revmike Special user Annville, PA 646 Posts |
This was one of the first parlor/stage tricks I did as a kid - Now I normally use the color changing wreaths but still sometimes break it out when doing a "hop-sock" theme.
The magic is not in our sleights and illusions, but instead in our ability to bring love and joy.
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
Color changing juggling rings have not gone out of style, and are not likely to, so just add the silk part as a combination of juggling silks and juggling rings with magic color changes, fo those who know how it's done.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
Andrew McMillan New user Melbourne Australia 63 Posts |
Hi all
I also had Silk Serenade in my kit as a teenager but no longer use it. However I like the idea around it and would like to update it if I can find a context that justifies putting a coloured scarf through a record/cd. Love to hear other thoughts about a more contemporary reading of this effect. Also, haven't heard of the color changing wreaths. Who sells them? Andrew |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2012-06-03 21:15, AndyMac68 wrote: You don't have to put a silk through the center of the pocket folder. Do it any way you wish, but if you don't see that it does not make any sense if you don't you are lost, and will reveal the magic. It is not our job to "sell" you to use any effect in a certain manner. Don't like it or magic that don't make sense to you, then don't do it. Many dealers sell the Color Changing Wreaths. |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
There have been 2 other Color Changing Records from years ago on the market. Bob Kline (famous for making high quality Copentro, and Plexiglas items) made a really nice plastic record set with a music symbol stand and James Rainho made a version from real records.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Yes! The one with the real records was called (I believe) Silk Symphony, and I had that as well. That set was lost in the foreclosure, so it's GONE!
You guys ever seen that one? I didn't know it was from James Rainho, though. Absolutely perfect, because I was a radio DJ, and we played 45's on the radio on big iron turntables that were 16" platters! Man, I miss those days! Silk Symphony was my finale for years... Doug |
Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3667 Posts |
Not that I remember personally but LPs had only a tiny hole so it would be impossible to pull a scarf through the center anyway.
Mary Mowder |
Anatole Inner circle 1913 Posts |
I never used a silk with the Tricks Ltd version. I basically held the three records in one hand and did a kind of one-hand Ascanio Spread to effect the changes. But that only worked because, as I said, I took two sets and glued records together to give them more substantial body. I always thought the way "Silk Serenade" came, that the records look flimsy and--well, like cardboard. The Tricks Ltd records also were designed so that it looked like they had grooves, whereas (unless memory fails) the "Silk Serenade" records looked like ungrooved discs. I guess from a distance you can't tell if the grooves are there, but in performing anywhere close to the audience, I think the spectators would be able to tell that they're not really records.
Someone also came out with a color changing CD routine as I recall that wasn't too bad. Denny Haney lists one at http://dennymagic.com/store/color-changing-cd.html Since some music CDs are even sold in different colors and even with pictures on them, it makes a little sense to have them change color. ----- Sonny
----- Sonny Narvaez
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vincentmusician Loyal user Toronto 266 Posts |
I use Silk Serenade all the time! I have a few Magic to Music routines I use with my own original songs. My audiences like it, I always get hand claps. I never mention records or care if people know what records are or not. The trick is easy, visual, colourful and I love performing it! Cheers!
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