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Richard Lucas Special user TX fornow- MemberMagicCastle'65-'88 737 Posts 
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Who makes the best quality r/s Svengali deck?
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts
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A Svengali deck does not have any R&S, only s***t cards.
Are you talking about a mirage deck which combines those principles? I say the best quality would be buying a Svengali and applying the work yourself.... |
Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18065 Posts
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Daegs
Are there any books out about the mirage deck? It's my favorite since I'm not much of a card guy. Thanks Dave
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Richard Lucas Special user TX fornow- MemberMagicCastle'65-'88 737 Posts
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On 2005-10-05 20:39, Daegs wrote: I own 2 r/s Svengali's now; I don't know if they are known by another name as you suggest.
"The only difference between a Card Cheat and a Magician is that the Magician shows off.".......... Jay Ose 1965
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1814 Posts
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I think, and I may be wrong but a roughed Svengali is called a Pop Eyed Popper deck. I do know a standard Svengali is not roughed it is as Daegs says.
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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They come under different names including "Phantom Deck" and "Mirage Deck". Whatever they are called the are simply R/S Svengali decks. I couldn't tell who makes the best or where to get them as I don't use them.
Yes they exist. Call them what you will. It dosen't change what they are.
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algebraic Inner circle 1008 Posts
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I order mine through Haines House of Cards. You may even have them make specific decks for you. They make quality decks of cards. Many dealers use their services.
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DomKabala Inner circle I've grown old after diggin' holes for 2827 Posts
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Burling Hull is the inventor of the "Mirage Deck". Most magic supply companies carry them. I believe the most popular brand is made in Bicycle stock...I picked one up at the Daytona Magic Shop under the original name "Mirage Deck" and they also carry the "Pop-eyed Popper" deck also which is basically the same set-up. You can also doctor up a std. Svengali deck with some r******* spray.
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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KRZ4kardz,
I'm pretty sure that Burling Hull invented the "Svengali Deck" (at the age of 16) and other tricks like the "Menetekel" deck. Ralph Hull invented the "Mirage Deck" (the R/S Svengali), the "Brainwave Deck" and the "Mental Photography Deck".
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DomKabala Inner circle I've grown old after diggin' holes for 2827 Posts
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I believe you are correct, thanx for the insight...sorry about that!
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We don't stop playing when we grow old...we grow old when we stop playing.
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Ross W Inner circle UK 1781 Posts
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I know it as a Mirage Deck and have seen it used on TV twice lately: it looks ultra-clean.
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Richard Lucas Special user TX fornow- MemberMagicCastle'65-'88 737 Posts
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On 2005-10-06 10:34, algebraic wrote: Algebraic. Thanks.... You are the only one that answered the question. "Where to find the best quality....". I am assuming you are pleased with the quality. Thanks again, DickLucas
"The only difference between a Card Cheat and a Magician is that the Magician shows off.".......... Jay Ose 1965
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sunnydolan Veteran user Opelika, Alabama 342 Posts
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A r/s svengli deck is a svengli deck where the "main" card is r/s behind a normal deck, am I right??
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Juno Temple New user Los Angeles 59 Posts
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Hi Dick,
Mirage is Svengali cut, 26 duplicates, treated rough and smooth. The Pop-eyed Popper deck is rough and smooth, with 26 duplicates, but not Svengali cut. The 50/50 forcing deck is neither Svengali cut nor rough and smooth, but contains 26 force cards of the overall 52 cards of what appears a typical deck of cards.
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trickster2000 Loyal user Toronto 287 Posts
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Does anyone sell a device to make (trim) Svengali cards?
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Posted: Oct 5, 2005 11:48 pm 