To take this one step further, is there a way to give a die to a spectator and be assured that he/she will roll a pre-determined number each time? I don't know much about loaded dice and whether or not they are 100% reliable on the number that needs to be rolled. Just wondering as I have some ideas on how this could be applied ...

I do too.
Shooting Craps.

I remember an episode of a recent UK/German "cheat show" which showed a couple of guys on a ship ripping off passengers at some dice game. They used normal dice and had a specific technique for shaking the dice (die) in the cup before finally plonking down on the table. Sorry I can't be more specific but a search of cheat type TV shows may help...

One of my first tricks, was a box in which one placed 5 or 6 dice (I can't actually remember) with mixed faces, you placed the lid on and shook and bingo! all the same! Love it, made me think I was really magic.

But who's to say we aren't!

-Anthony

100% agree

John Kennedy's "Double Whammy" is another take on a dice trick. The concept and execution are actually very straightforward but done correctly can really catch people by surprise.

Problema Dice is the one where you have dice in a random order in a box, close it, shake it, and they all now show the same face.

Viking/Collector's Workshop sells a nice version of this effect they call Problema Deluxe. They also have one called "Loaded Dice" by Alan Wakeling, where you can control two separate rows of dice. These are a bit expensive but these can be found for a lower price sometimes here in the "For Sale" section or on E-bay (one is there selling for around $45-50.00 right now). The quality of both is top notch.

These might not be exactly what you are looking for, but you may find them intersting enough to pursue for alternative dice tricks.

I have used Double Whammy a few times and I like it's straightforward simplicity. I also have Loaded Dice but this takes some good patter to go along with how you move the box while showing it. This one allows for several routines that give you a number of transformations with the dice. Quite clever actually.

I was actually going to suggest your book. Thanks for doing it for me. Great book by the way.

I second that and I doubt anyone will read through the whole list though. Also it's a bit to long. I do admire you knowledge though.

Missing from Lawrence's list is the big book "Scarne on dice" which is an extensive book on dice, one part of it being devoted to cheating moves.

Depending on what you're aiming for, there is a not-so-difficult move that allows you to control the shoot of one die amongst two, the other one being legitimately randomly thrown...

Jonathan.

There's one of these for sale on the Café right now:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......rum=78&0

Laurie please put up a another demo you had several years ago on dice penetration so the masses can see this in action
you do this very well..
vinny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxDOTYspO4s

I found this in the book, "It's Magic" by Henry Gordon. I've got some new dice I might try shooting another clip with. Also, you'd get the audio effect as well as the visual, if I refilmed with sound.

Laurie thanks for the demo in your hands it is a thing of beauty, and by the way how is the new hat LOL
hope to see you next year at the WMS
vinny

Vinny gave me a hat at the World Magic Seminar in Las Vegas. It's doing just fine, Vinny, thanks.



That pic's a little big, I guess. Oh well.

Laurie

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
looks great
vinny

I met Laurie at WMS this year. It's alway great to see women in magic, especially those who excel. Great video and great lid!
Leave it to Vinny to leave his mark on everyone he meets!

Laurie the rose went into the mail today
vinny

Appreciated, thankyou!

And re. the rose- thankyou, Vinny.

Laurie

This is something interesting I found regarding dice controlling and ESP experiments at Duke:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dice-play/MagicTelekinetic.htm

Candini welcome back, glad to see you off that power ball thread lol
vinny