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I already have a Holland lop. He is a year old and is 3 and a half pounds. But he is too big for most of my bunny tricks. What is a good breed of bunnies for magic tricks? Like a small and calm bunny that does not struggle to get out of a small compartment when it is in one a long time. When I say long time, I mean 15 min.
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A good choice for a magic rabbit is the Netherland Dwarf . They start out small and stay small. Most standard magic apparatus that is built for a rabbit is built for a small rabbit like the Netherland Dwarf . Some magicians prefer working with a larger rabbit ( on the extreme end Walter Blaney uses huge white New Zealand's ) , but you're going to have to custom build your props to hold larger rabbits.

The Polish Rabbit breed is a small rabbit, almost as small as the Netherland Dwarf.
The Dutch rabbit breed is another smaller rabbit. Not as small as a Netherland Dwarf, but a nice "medium size" rabbit .

As far as the bunny being "calm and not struggling" that is a matter of training and sometimes of temperment. Rabbits have different personalities and temperments. The one I currently have is one of the best natured rabbits I've ever had the pleasure of knowing . He is very calm, loves to be held , doesn't put up a fuss about going into load compartments (but I always make sure it is comfortable, with plenty of room and air....... don't try to force an animal into a prop that is too small . Rebuild the prop if necessary. Build the prop around the animal ) .

Spend time holding the rabbit and playing with it . Let the rabbit get to where it trusts you , then gradually introduce him to the prop(s) over a couple of days and start rehearsing . If it's a load compartment where he needs to get used to staying in for 15 minutes then start off slow with 1 minute , take a break, then 2 minutes, take a break, 5 minutes, break for the day. Next day 5 minutes, take a break , 8 minutes, take a long break , then 10 minutes, working up to 15 minutes . You get the idea. Spend at least two days getting him comfortable. Make sure the prop itself is comfortable and allows him to breathe adequately . If you're not performing with him every day or every other day then make sure that you repeat the ritual of rehearshing him in the box for 10 - 15 minutes at a time at least once a week so he doesn't forget about it . He'll get used to it as a regular thing that you do together . Treats are a necessity . After spending time in the load chamber he gets a special treat . Find out what he likes to eat : carrots and apples are always favorites (but don't overdo it , just a bit is fine)
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Dittos on everything Dai said. I have a Dwarf also and he is a bit big (2.5 lbs) for a Dwarf. His first big show is 3 July.
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I have a friend who has a Netherland Dwarf and it is 3.5 pounds. The same weight as my Holland lop. Is this uncommon for a Netherland Dwarf to be so big?
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I've heard the max is 3 lbs. Mine is 11 months now and is 2.7 lbs now.
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Mines bigger than average as well, perhaps he will have to hop to the shows,lol! I have a cross breed of a lop and a neth. dwarf so far shes staying small but she may be a biggun!

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On 2004-06-18 19:51, J.S.llusionDesigns wrote:
I have a friend who has a Netherland Dwarf and it is 3.5 pounds. The same weight as my Holland lop. Is this uncommon for a Netherland Dwarf to be so big?


A pure Netherland Dwarf Bunny should not get to be that large. Sometimes you need to watch their diet though, and I always try to buy bunnies that had relatively small (2.5 lbs. or less) parents. I always buy from a breeder and check the registration papers. I am lucky to have found to very good breeders that live within a drivable distance from me.

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I try to exercise my bunny at least once a week and before the shows, I limit his diet a bit.
Been thinking of buying another buck dwarf cause I have a double hutch and would like to do a transpo effect (Tarbell 3). Put a black bunny in my Rabbit Vanish box and when the kids scream door number 2, show them he has turned into a white bunny. Then after removing him, truly show the vanish box empty.
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I used to do that effect Candini. My black bunny died last year, so I don't do it anymore. I currently have 3 Netherland bucks. I have 2 double outdoor hutches so I may add another later on, if I find a need. It's not a whole lot harder to care for 3 or 4 Netherlands as it is for just 1.

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Thanks Regan. I called the bunny lady today and she didn't have any white bucks right now. She said she usually breeds a bigger doe so she can have a larger litter.

She did mention even with a double hutch, my older male may try to get at the younger buck. I have my hutch separated by a double 1/4 wire piece.

Did you buy your rabbits together or one at a time?
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I bought mine one at a time. They are not related and I bought them from 2 different breeders.

I keep mine seperated by 1/2" mesh wire and I have never had a problem. Usually when a new bunny moves in nextdoor I have just noticed a lot of curiousity. They want to look at each other and they act excited and ran around a lot. After a while it subsides and they don't seem to pay that much attention to one another. I have never had them try to fight or anything like that through the wire.

That is my experience anyway. I don't know if that is the 'norm' or not.

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Thanks Regan,

I think sometimes breeders forget that some people don't have 200-300 rabbits in their backyard:)

Still looking for one, sent some emails out to surrounding counties.

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Good luck Candini.

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Greetings! I'm new to this area and to using rabbits but have been doing magic and escapes for over 20 years. Bought two sisters which were to be a Holland Lop and Dwarf mix. One black. One white. They are both HUGE now! I'll have to rebuild! Although there's always that sawing a rabbit in half idea Smile

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You have to be careful and know what to look for when buying Netherland Dwarf bunnies. The first rabbit I bought was a mix and ended up being too large. I gave it to my daughter's teacher for a class pet. The kids loved it, it was well cared for, and I still got to see it whenever I wanted. I learned my lesson and I learned more about Netherlands before I bought another.

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I bought a Holland Lop eared as a baby and it was so cute and so small. That was 3 years ago. Now it's HUGE! It also poops everytime you touch it. I cannot bring myself to put it back in the show. It seems unprofessional to me to allow an animal to "do it's thing" in someone elses house. I realize the pellets clean up easy but it just seems wrong to me. Short of buying a "cork", how do you train your wabbit not to do this? Or do you not worry about it. How do you keep it from messing in the load chamber?
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My main Netherland Dwarf that I use in in most of my shows has never messed up a magical box...yet. (Knock on wood) I try not to leave him loaded very long.

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Dittos here also. How old is yours? Usually they will try and hold it. Try not to feed or give it much water the day before the show. I give mine a light feeding in the morning before an afternoon show and then lavish it afterwards........
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I have a 4 year old, a 2 1/2 year old, and a 2 year old. And yours?

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Mine is 11 months old. I found a breeder 156 miles south of me, she is checking but thinks she is sure she has a white male dwarf. Have to convince wife.

I know there are transpositions, turning my black one into white. Could do it with my vanish box but I think there are better ones. The vanish box doors may come open.

Posted: Nov 13, 2004 2:59am
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Well, its the wee hours and breeder is suppose to be driving here to go to the airport. I am suppose to meet up to pick up the new red eyed white buck.