Hey all,

I have a question about the capacity of TT's. This comes from some recent investigation (ie. playing with) my collection of TTs (mostly standard hard plastic Vernets with various diameters and lengths).

I have read about people hiding multiple coins, producing very large silks, etc. But after playing around some time I noticed that only a couple of very awkward, large/long tips were able to accommodate such feats.

Its not that I don't believe people do these things, but it is somewhat baffling, especially for a guy with small hands.

Does anyone want to comment?

Henry

There's more than one digit on your hand, and most of them are smaller than your thumb. . . try one of those.
I often use a Vernet King on my index or middle finger. It gives me a lot more room, and it makes the removal much more natural.

Thanks Dustin.

Of course the REALLY BIG Vernet has lots of room. But it doesn't work for smaller hands, or at least would seem to be the case. My own experimentation with it is that, because of its diameter, it slips off.

HLT

Couple of alternatives to possible consider, Henry.

!st, hank ball. You don't see it used a lot nowadays.....but it is great once you get the hang of it. I vanish a 24" silk, bigger than any TT can handle I think.

There is also something called a Fujiwara Gimmick. It is a multi digit gimmick and works for different items such as coins.

That was my first thought. Also, with small fingers, why not try a Sanada gimmick? It would hide a coin or two in finger palm easily. I hold sponge balls and rubber bands using one (different effects)

Thanks. I will check these gimmicks out. The Mark Wilson book also has a substitute,a small canister, which is connected to a more complex apparatus which I will not detail.

Henry

Dustin wrote: "There's more than one digit on your hand, and most of them are smaller than your thumb. . . try one of those."

I did, and those definitely have possibilities.

Thanks.

Henry

I have read that coins can be produced as well, but when I got the booklet, it turns out they were only using dimes.

Have you tried the folding half or quarter, with your small hands it should be easy for you.

When loaded, the device does not have to fully be fitted on the hand.

There are three Vernet's that I use a lot. The classic mostly, then the king which is longer for a larger load. You can easily put a 12" diamond cut in a king and it looks like an 18" silk or if your fit is perfect you put an 18" diamond in a king size. The 18" diamond looks like a 24" square. I also occasionally use what Vernet calls a little t. Another option for coins if you handle them well is to slit the end of the tt. I use a dollar bill to 2 2 halves transposition you can also do a bill to 4 quarters transposition. You must handle correctly to avoid the flash. Vernet has an XXL and its just too big for me.

As I read these posts, my thoughts say, these guys need some handling training. David Williamson 3rd DVD called the Magic Farm, he removes the cap from a Bic pen, dumps out two dimes and nickel. Then he reverses the effect. He shows his handling, and hopefully, you will learn certain things about how to wear the TT that is preloaded.

The Patrick Page tt DVD is probably the best bang for the buck. A real classic. There are two or three real gems in there among a bunch of basic handling methods.

I can remember using a standard TT to produce a larger silk by gluing a corner of it at the very bottom, then handling the TT more like a Dye Tube. Would that help?

I'm working on a silk routine now and needed a bigger tip like the bigger Vernets, but one that fits on my middle finger. I used one made for hiding a goldfish. works great, it's long but you mostly keep it curled in to palm, etc so it's not noticable. I sanded down the edges cause they are thick vinyl/plastic. Another option is a Square-ish tip you can get from Propdog, or you can make your own by melting slightly and shaping it - they explain it on a free video on their website. Very cool uses for them, such as bigger coins and markers.

Dave Bosnall at propdog does a stretched TT.

https://www.propdog.co.uk/stretched-thum......mb%20tip

Vernet's XXL is the only tt I’ve found that works well for my rather large hands. Fortunately for me, the XXL fits and works beautifully and as an added bonus, I can vanish fairly large objects. My "go to" vanish is a bright pink 12" silk, it’s my absolute favorite trick. Followed closely by dime and penny, which I can easily vanish with the XXL and wind up mostly clean.