On Nov 10, 2018, Alyx wrote:
Hi all,

I'm new here. I'm a stay at home mom who used to work as a busker and before that worked lightly as a restaurant/bar magician. I need to get out of the house and want to make some money for my family, and Magic is calling my name (again). I'm putting together a few sets, and I really want to do a ninja rings routine.

Years ago I spent some time with Reed McClintock, and he heavily influenced my taste in magic. I've never forgotten his ring routine (it was the first ninja ring routine I ever saw). In fact, I've joined Magic Café just so I can ask you all for help -- and I'll be happy to contribute as I can .

So, any idea where I could find a copy of his rings manuscript, Defiance? I remember it was pulled from the market shortly after he released it (and confusingly to everyone I talk to today, he released a cups and balls routine under the name Defiance II -- which is not what I'm looking for). Any leads at all? His internet presence has completely dried up, and I don't know how to contact him, and it's otherwise super rare.

If no one can help with Defiance, any other thoughts for developing a 4 ring ninja ring routine using a lighter touch (i.e. leaning towards Cellini rather than Messado or Shoot Ogawa). I want it to be conversational, but also more mystical than sharp and aggressive (i.e. tons of crash links).
Thanks so much!