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Kabbalah
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On Aug 14, 2015, Ricardo Delgado wrote:
He was talking about m_ _ _ed decks, not memdecks.


Ah!

Thanks for that...my reading comprehension was not so good.

Now that I realize that, a marked deck was not used.
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But you could do exact this effect using such a deck Smile ! It would not be the correct method, but MAGIC means that there shouldn't be any explanation at all, even a wrong one is bad. BTW, Simon Aronson wrote about certain strategies concerning this issue... Jan
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I agree that asking the spec to name their card and then stopping on that card in a one-by-one deal is easily done with a marked deck. But her routine of dividing the deck, turning away and glancing at her cards while giving instructions, then lowering her hands while still turned (camera cuts away) suggests something else. I vote for a memdeck and her readiness to watch as many as 26 cards dealt before the reveal.
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Yes, of course... But this routine will only impress an intelligent layman if he knows that it is not a m...ed deck. And using a MD it is not important if you use two sets of 26 from the beginning or simply switch in later a second set of (e. g.) #1 - #26... Jan
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On Aug 14, 2015, JanForster wrote:
Yes, of course... But this routine will only impress an intelligent layman if he knows that it is not a m...ed deck. And using a MD it is not important if you use two sets of 26 from the beginning or simply switch in later a second set of (e. g.) #1 - #26... Jan


I'm not sure if I understand what you mean here. Does MD in this context mean marked deck or mem deck? And by 'important' do you mean 'necessary'?
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MD means memorized... And I meant "important" Smile
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On Aug 14, 2015, JanForster wrote:
But you could do exact this effect using such a deck Smile ! It would not be the correct method, but MAGIC means that there shouldn't be any explanation at all, even a wrong one is bad. BTW, Simon Aronson wrote about certain strategies concerning this issue... Jan


I think that is exactly why she looks the other way while he is dealing the cards on her hand. This is in an elegant and subtle way to disprove for the suspicious spectators that she was not using a marked deck.

Tamariz covers a lot of this theory on "The Magic Way".
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I agree, but to be honest I would have even stated that verbally, also the Why. Jan
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May be typing MmD and MkD would be an easier shorthand without exposing the method?