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Hello Everyone. My name is Dynamike. This is my first post (in this section). I am a magician. I do use pets in my kids' shows. Because of the economy is so bad in Michigan I was thinking about adding something simple dealing with juggling for about 5 minutes in my act. One thing I was thinking about was plate spinning. Is plate spinning easy? If so, what other juggling effects are easy? Thanks.
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You can get the beginner's plate spinning items (I suggest the metal plates though). I use it in my act at the beginning to establish my humanity. Won't give that part away as to what I do as I got permission from another performer to adapt this part for my act. It doesn't last that long though...errr that's not a joke either.

As for other "easy" juggling? Can't help you there except try juggling scarves.
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Which are easier, the plastic ones or the metal ones? Which ones go around longer? I saw Tim Shoesmith do it on his DVD. He let the child hold it also. I am a little nervous of the plate falling down on a different child sitting on the floor. Can that happen in a easy manner?

Juggle Scarves...that sounds like a good idea. Not just because it is easy, but because the colors are good for the kids. It seems like it would keep attention better than the balls towards one year old kids.

Thanks, Bill.
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Hi dynamike,

I don't get quite clearly if you are looking for something cheap, something easy or both. Anyway here is what I can say. I hope you can have ideas with that.

Bill is right the most easy three objects juggling are scarves (from far), you can also try plastic bags or some kinds of floaty papers. The colour is usually less flashy than with scarves but you get the sound.

Can you already juggle a three ball cascade (juggling basic pattern)?
If so try juggling with mixed everyday objects kids like it! Kids also like when you juggle with eggs because they just want it to drop and explode (you can cheat it with boiled eggs). You can combine both and use a fresh egg, a pan and a lighted torch (then you must know how to juggle and be confide,t wioth the trick). You just juggle and finish by catcging the torch in one hand, the pan in the other and the egg in the pan!!

Bouncing balls are quite fascinating toward kids but you just don't want them go everywhere when you miss (but it's easier than toss/air juggling).

Also the basics in flower stick are quite easy to get (definitely use silicone sticks), the same with diabolo but it's more easy to make it fall! The trick when there a string hanged to the sealing and where the diabolo goes all the way up there is quite good with kids.

There are also hat manipulations with are involving no throwing that are not that difficult, but usually juggling hats are quite expensive!

MP me if you want more advices or links to online videos.
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Mike
A juggling club, or a regional juggling convention is where you will learn the most and the fastest, even if you want to be a bad juggler first you have to be a good juggler in order to look bad, in order to do it on stage you have to make it look easy.
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On 2008-09-07 11:42, lozax wrote:
Can you already juggle a three ball cascade (juggling basic pattern)?

I use to do it in my teens. I need to practice to get it going again.
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If so try juggling with mixed everyday objects kids like it! Kids also like when you juggle with eggs because they just want it to drop and explode (you can cheat it with boiled eggs).

I can feel what you are saying. It will help hype the audience. Some will worried an egg will fall and break on the carpet/floor. That is a good way to keep them excited. I might cheat a little more by using wood painted eggs. I will look at "Michael's Craft Store" to see if they have any wood eggs. I can paint them myself.
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You can combine both and use a fresh egg, a pan and a lighted torch (then you must know how to juggle and be confide,t wioth the trick). You just juggle and finish by catcging the torch in one hand, the pan in the other and the egg in the pan!!

Sounds nice, but I am not that interested. Smile
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Bouncing balls are quite fascinating toward kids but you just don't want them go everywhere when you miss (but it's easier than toss/air juggling).

I did see a guy bouncing balls while masked on "You Tube." I will give it a try. The only disadvantage is the uneven ground. I might try using a 2' X 2' wood board to take with me as the base for uneven areas.
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MP me if you want more advices or links to online videos.

The only videos/DVDs I will need is "Bounce Juggling" and "Scarf Juggling".
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Mike
A juggling club, or a regional juggling convention is where you will learn the most and the fastest, even if you want to be a bad juggler first you have to be a good juggler in order to look bad, in order to do it on stage you have to make it look easy.

Thanks, Al. All of the ideas you have given me on The Café have been important and helpful to me. "CDS" (Chuck) is a member of a magic club not far from me. I will go sometime this month. I will tell them you sent me. Smile
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I know I just send it ti you via Mp but I thought maybe the other jugglers could like this links as there are some Frnch jugglers who are maybe not quite famous in the US :

" hi mike,

one of the great things in bouncing balls in that you can juggle in a structure (greg kennedy is a virtuose in that field, Michael moshen is one of the initiators of this field)

-greg kennedy : cone (very inovative)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqDAf_lg9Xs

- Michael moshen : triangle (the classic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHoedoSUXY&feature=related

- sean gandini, john blanchard : cube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw5a3rAr5BI&feature=related

-greg kennedy : orthogonal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kVpRQDm8ec&feature=related

- greg kennedy : quadralith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vfnpIEyZkE&feature=related

- greg kennedy : hemisphere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsKzSt4zOHo&feature=related

- greg kennedy : rotating square
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNW76fDWkA0&feature=related

appart from the structures you can juggle on the ground or mix air and bounce juggling. Here are some very good french videos (I am from Paris)

- bouncing in paris Trailer :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzVP70ux9zk

- some videos of manu des halles aka c2laballe a friend and a marvelous juggler :

the new videos of manu (you have to check this out!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSt4Bn5hzTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55q7XYEm2RU&feature=related

the old videos of manu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcPLziG6zQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C__1wsCKxE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F935-irtcs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_pVbxCv_kY&feature=related

- a tribute to vincent bruel one of the best french bounce jugglers who died tragically :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQIQoujFzE4&feature=related


Concerning DVDs you should definitely get "Bouncing in Paris" available from Dube and "Siteswap" from Gandini Juggling!!! Those are the must have I think.

Here you go."
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Thanks a lot. I had no idea it would be so many. I appreciate it, Lozax.
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On 2008-09-04 19:05, Dynamike wrote:
Which are easier, the plastic ones or the metal ones? Which ones go around longer? I saw Tim Shoesmith do it on his DVD. He let the child hold it also. I am a little nervous of the plate falling down on a different child sitting on the floor. Can that happen in a easy manner?

Juggle Scarves...that sounds like a good idea. Not just because it is easy, but because the colors are good for the kids. It seems like it would keep attention better than the balls towards one year old kids.

Thanks, Bill.


The plastic ones tend to have a huge lip and therefore are easier to spin and not lose. The metal ones are a little more difficult but last longer and are not as affected by wind (although they still are to a degree). I get a child to stand up and hold it on stage. Of course I keep an eye on it and am constantly interacting with the child.
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Thanks for the info.
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I was at my first juggler club yesterday. I learned a lot already.
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It is a real crash course in juggling, just remember to introduce yourself to everybody, ask questions, and you will learn fast.

Posted: Sep 18, 2008 12:12pm
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Practice every day for about 15 minutes, do it over your bed so you don't have to bend over to pick up the balls, measure your success weekly, and you will see steady progress every week. You should not include juggling in your act until you can do fancy tricks effortlessly, while you smile, and are able to talk all at the same time.
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...Practice over my bed. That is an excellent idea. I wounder why I never thought of that. Thank you, Al.

I easy understand and agree with about when to include it in my magic act. It takes so much to stay focused. One little distraction brings down everything.
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We say in juggling that we are all standing on the shoulders of the generations of jugglers that preceded us. If you practice the way I told you to all of this will become second nature to you. Perhaps you may enjoy the Dave Finnigan books "the complete juggler", "juggling from start to star", or the Kit Summers book "juggling with finess". Look on ebay sometimes you can get them used.
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Thanks again Al. I will be on the look out. Smile
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Hi Dynamike

You should see Juggling Step by Step by Dave Finnigan, its a very nice old vhs Smile
5 bucks in amazon Smile

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Thanks, I will look into that.
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Dynamike -

If you're into ball juggling, check out Jamie Haggar's DVD, Ultimate Ball Juggling. It starts off with the basics, gets into some crazy three ball moves, then starts adding balls in the second half of the DVD. I'm using it right now to learn with. Everything is very clearly explained, and each move is done at speed and in slow motion (I'm guessing that he didn't actually do it in slow motion, they just slowed the video - although that would have been a heck of a trick).

Here's the link: http://www.jugglingstore.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=156

That site (www.jugglingstore.com) has a lot of other juggling products as well, but I just went with a set of stage balls (one yellow, one green and two red, sized to fit in my Stratosphere) and that DVD.
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I do have the Juggling DVD by Will Roya. He covers a lot.
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How are you doing on your juggling? It is a great tool for me and some of my clients. Last Monday I used ideas from Life lessons learned from Juggling in a group with teenagers.

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