Sorry, I did not mean Her referring to you...but to the person doing the cold readings... How can anyone say that he or she, is insincere? That he or she does not believe their readings are real? How can anyone say categorically that he or she is " Faking " it? If the reader is sincere, and believes their readings are real readings. Not fake, then is it ethical to tell them " You need to make disclaimers, or not work for profit."

They believe their service has value, the person that goes to them also believes their service has value. But many would believe they are not ethical, because " There is NO WAY, they can be doing what they are doing."

When it comes to these things, All I Know is, that There is very little that I KNOW. Just because for me to do a cold reading may require trickery, does not mean that it's impossible that somewhere out there there are real readers.

As I said, the only way to determine if a reader is a faker and insincere, ...is by using REAL mentalism. That is what I find Ironic.

No problem - I didn't take it as referring to me - I don't do readings - and I agree with virtually everything you've said.

Sorry if I sounded argumentative or cold - I've learnt to choose words carefully when discussing this subject - the conversation can become very heated.

I've actually enjoyed your posts in many different threads - you jump into everything that interests you with a real energy and a determination to learn everything you can. I think that's the greatest way to live a life.

Destiny

I happen to believe that life is to be lived. Not time marked on a clock or days crossed off a calendar. If you are not living, you are dieing.

Or like that Tim McGraw song, maybe you should "Live like you are dying".

Isn't that the Irony of life though? it has often been seen that the moment someone gets a report from their doctors that they have a year to live, They start living. I mean suddenly the things they always meant to do, but put off, because " well, we'll have time in a few years." is suddenly on a List, and they cross stuff off.

As longwe are are told we are fine and healthy, we will always postpone what we wish to do... so yes, I agree. live like you are dying. Or as an old adage goes.." Live every day, as though it were your last, because one day, you'll be right."

A creature born is a creature dying.

It's all about how you spend what time you have here - and how what you do affects others who will remember you to those they know long after you are gone.

Heideggerian dreams....

What do you mean by that?

Jonathan, you always say that we should READ. I agree. So...READ.

Read: Heidegger on Death.

And then come back here and read my refutation of Heidegger, here, in this thread. My refutation? DREAMS.

This book: Heidegger, Martin. Being and Time. 1927. New York: Harper and Row, 1962.

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Right.

For Heidegger, life is something like "being toward death". Exceedingly interesting, I think, though I don't necessarily agree. Of course, in light of the other thread in the other forum about the Prestige, I think it's worth investigating. Perhaps it's worth investigating for all those interested in the deeper meaning of magic.

Will do - my comment references a different tradition -> simply to recognize that we are mortal and by being born we are also (from a distant perspective) starting the countdown till our time comes and who we are we becomes something in the past tense in other people's memories - and maybe stories