OK...jeez... I said it once, I'll say it again. I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PERSON OR ITEM I AM REFERRING TO! I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed what I thought I had noticed. To clarify my question even further (I apologize for not being clear to begin with), I wasn't talking about someone buying a prop or routine and using it, or changing it and using it, in a show. That's why we all buy stuff, and that's our benefit for paying for it. It was talking about people who market items and sell them under the heading of "Gospel Magic". I go to a lot of shows, conventions, magic festivals, etc. I love buying items, and I have seen quite a few items over the years that were a direct take on another effect. Let's all assume they asked permission and move on. Ron Reid made the point, and I took it, that we have to assume they have permission. I need to give the benefit of the doubt, unless I ask and find out for sure. Has anyone ever posted a question they wish they didn't have? LOL...

Thank you all for your passionate comments...

Add to the art, don't just take. Why not do a few classics were the presentation has been edited or embellished, i.e. water to wine, fish and bread multiplication (use a box made by a good carpenter, preferably one who has been trained by a long line of artisans)? ...Oh, just a thought, I'm not sure who owns the rights to these, best to check first, so it does not look like your praying on another's market.

What's legality got to do with it? It's a question of magic ethics. Or, as Steve Brooks rightly terms it, "business ethics."

> It is strange that the "Gospel" version of 3 Card Monte is available!

Forgive me father, I have shilled.

-Rd

Yeah... I guess "The GhostVision of St. John" would be not only a rip off but also in poor taste as well. Ah well!