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sleight king Loyal user 278 Posts |
Does anyone know where I can buy matching solid and normal cups?
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Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1309 Posts |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24316 Posts |
Solid cups are only feasible in certain materials. Copper, brass and stainless steel are too heavy for use in solid cups of normal size. They do work well in aluminum and wood.
However, if you are planning to do Shawn Farquhar's routine, please don't try to deconstruct it. Most of us are too familiar with it.
"The Swatter"
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Sleight King,
Bill is dead on about the weight of metal. In the 70s I did a TV commercial using beer cans and the final move was not a solid cup but a full can of beer. That was heavy enough! Try Pringle cans! (You will have to have them tapered. Creme cheese or yogurt containers might work.) Good Luck! Bob |
RiserMagic Veteran user 361 Posts |
FYI - In the 1970's I made several dozen solid brass cups and sold most of them through Sun Magic in Phoenix. The cup was shaped similar to my Riser Jumbo Cups and Stage and Street Cups - sized in between the two. It was extremely heavy. To use it without creating suspicion, the "move" was to tilt the cup (pivot it) rather than lift it during the short routine. The ball to be vanished was merely rolled into the palm of the hand pivoting the cup. The only time the heavy cup was lifted was to knock out the final load. This was usually fruit or a baseball. The cup was then placed on the table so that a female spectator would have to attempt to lift it at arm's length. Believe me that was not going to happen. If she would place the produced fruit under the cup, I'd vanish it. Actually, I'd lap the fruit as she fought to drag the heavy cup near her to attempt to lift it.
Solid "cups" were around even before I made/sold my version. There were even two small aluminum versions made during the same time period. I think Bill Palmer has one style of the small solid cups made in aluminum. Jim |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24316 Posts |
I do, indeed. I also have one of Auke's micro cups in stainless that is solid. It's tiny, but quite heavy.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
Dennis Loomis and I met for lunch and he brought his micro solid in stainless.
I was absolutely amazed at the weight. I knew right away that I would not be getting a solid "regular" cup anytime soon. Unless I could talk bill palmer into driving behind me with it on a forklift as I strolled table-to-table. What with gas prices as they are, I'd rather not spend the money on fuel just for the solid cup kicker. Plus something makes me think they'd see it coming.
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Eric Falconer Veteran user Houston 378 Posts |
There's a sight... Frank Starsini walking table to table with Bill Palmer chugging along behind with a forklift.... lol haha lol hahaha lol...
Eric Falconer
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Make your own. It is easy. Just take a regular cup and fill it with cement. Or lead.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
.. or pudding.
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2206 Posts |
Don't be pudding that stuff in your cups
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Dennis Loomis 1943 - 2013 2113 Posts |
Yes, I asked Auke to make the solid cup for me that Frank saw. Auke said nothing about weight, and I had assumed that it wouldn't really be solid. A solid piece over the mouth but actually hollow. Nope, it was a solid chunk of Stainless steel turned into the cup shape. When I took the package out of my mail box I started to laugh until it occured to me that my mailman might have suffered a hernia. And, this was a fairly small cup. In a standard size cup, it could be used as the business end of a ball and chain.
Dennis Loomis
Itinerant Montebank
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24316 Posts |
You have to be careful what you ask Auke to make. He is very strong, and he will make what you ask for!
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
Michael Bilkis Special user 728 Posts |
I've seen a solid cup from viking magic.
Dan Garret has a one cup routine filled with cement or concrete |
Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
What about filling it with clear acrylic resin with a ball suspended inside?
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I like that...
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Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1309 Posts |
That is one awesome idea I like it too....good thinking.
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