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Hi Folks, I like this new forum.

As known,the Ultra mental effect can be done with no gaff by Memorised Deck. I am interested in this thread. Mike Close's book has a trick of this. It enlighten me on this subject. I devised a method of doing the Ultra mental with seight of hand and using memorised deck. It may be not new. So I want to know some another method.

What resource can I find on this thread ?

I have shot a demo video of my method.It's not good yet. If you are interested ,pm me for it.

Snowboard
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Snowboard,

I do have an effect called "VISIBLE I.D." You may find it in my site. I will pm you the site and the passwords.

If you plan to do this for laymen, I would suggest the gaffed version. My effect is just for lectures/conventions and club meetings.

Rannie

PS, I would love to see your video!
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."

-Rannie Raymundo-
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aka The Manila Enforcer

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Barrie Richardson has a routine, "Optical Brainwave Illusion" from his "Act Two" book. It uses a double-back card but doesn't use a memorized deck.
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Simon Aronson has an effect called The Invisible Card which I believe is on his new DVD set and in his book Try the Impossible.

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Thank all the reply.

Hi landmark ,
What is the name of Aronson's DVD?
And in his Dvd and Try the impossible, Are there all effect can be done of a common memorised deck?
I am using the Tamaris's deck from Memonica(A great book).

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Snowboard,

Invisible Deck from Try The Impossible works with ANY stack and is relatively easy to do. It's one of the tricks I do out of that book--the book as a whole is fantastic.

Cesar
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I am interested to know the reason you want to perform ID effect with a normal deck. Do you want to perform other tricks after ID without changing deck?

In case I perform other tricks after doing ID, I will say "This deck of cards becomes invisible soon, so I will use another deck for the next magic".

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Hi Hideo

One reason is I lost my ID and don't want to buy another one.haha

Seriously I want to learn more of the using memory deck. And I do the ID effect as mantalism ,ask a spectator think of a card,ask him to change his mind.I try to force his mind to my card. No the same to a prediction plot.

I can perform it among my stack deck routine.And everything can be examined.

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Darwin Ortiz Last Laugh is a real winner: a variation of invisible deck and smiling mule. Extremely strong effect.
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On 2006-05-28 13:20, Kjellstrom wrote:
Darwin Ortiz Last Laugh is a real winner: a variation of invisible deck and smiling mule. Extremely strong effect.


yeaj, I fool me badly when he get the four of clubs out from the 2 Aces.

I happened to the same miracle,When a spectator named four of clubs. I use Tamaris stack. What was Darwin use?
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On 2006-05-18 22:14, Hideo Kato wrote:
I am interested to know the reason you want to perform ID effect with a normal deck. Do you want to perform other tricks after ID without changing deck?

Hideo Kato


I think a huge bonus to performing and ID effect with a normal deck is that the spectator can spread the cards themselves. With the right psychology, it can be remembered as if the magician never touched the cards. A true miracle.

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Have you ever had that bonus? Do you think that bounus is bigger than the different bonus which you can get by perfoming ID with gaffed deck?

Hideo Kato
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On 2006-06-04 16:03, therntier wrote:
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On 2006-05-18 22:14, Hideo Kato wrote:
I am interested to know the reason you want to perform ID effect with a normal deck. Do you want to perform other tricks after ID without changing deck?

Hideo Kato


I think a huge bonus to performing and ID effect with a normal deck is that the spectator can spread the cards themselves. With the right psychology, it can be remembered as if the magician never touched the cards. A true miracle.

Trevor


I'd think that most people who have watched a performance of "Invisible Deck" (the gaffed one) would probably argue that they saw a true miracle - regardless of whether or not they handled the deck themselves.
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On 2006-06-05 06:48, Hideo Kato wrote:
Have you ever had that bonus? Do you think that bounus is bigger than the different bonus which you can get by perfoming ID with gaffed deck?

Hideo Kato


I agree that ID is a miracle whether it's gaffed or not. When I do it with a memo deck , I have had spectators say after the effect that, "He never touched the deck". I don't know if this makes the effect more astonishing, like I said, it's a miracle either way. But this statement will never be said by a spectator using the gaffed deck.
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Thanks for the clarification.

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On 2006-05-19 03:17, snowboard wrote:

One reason is I lost my ID and don't want to buy another one.



Then make one. What you need to know is all over this site...