I did have the good fortune to be able to attend one of his ninja rings workshops, and it was fantastic. Being 17 and able to meet one of your magic idols is fantastic, and I'll never forget it. You're absolutely right in saying he manages to make the illusion of the linking rings almost perfect. The way Shoot guages your talent with the Ninja Rings is on a scale form 0-200. He claims to be about a 170 I think, I can't recall. But, he bases it mainly on how smooth your basic crash link is, and his is fantastic. Even sitting at the table watching him do it, it looks exactly as if it's going through solid metal... unreal.

I saw absolutely nothing new in the ninja ring routine that was not aready in print. And that I already have not tried with my regular linking rings. He is selling the little childs set I had as a kid, with a re-hash of old moves.
I use a large 8 ring set now. I still have my small adams 5" rings I paid 50cents for. They work perfectly for all the moves. Which, by the way, can be found in all the old books on linking rings. I see time and time again, BIG NAME
magicians are just copying moves from old books, a rehash, for the younger genration that is too lazy to read. And wants it instantly on DVD. It's a shame what magic has turned into.

Ace,
What is old, is new again. I find Shoot's interpretation of the classic entertaining...and audiences do, too.

Incidentally, I'm not sure I've ever heard Shoot try to take credit for originating any of the moves.

Thanks for your reply, I guess it's just not for me.
Sorry, I was at his lecture at a TAOM, and I walked out bored. (He missed the spin link 3 times. I've seen ring routines close to juggling, throwing the ring in the air and it comes down linked. And the spin link is in an old book I have.) So I went in the dealers room, and bought some more books. I'm just a book lover. I guess it's just what one's preference is. And I perform rings daily, several times. Thank you for your comment.
So I'm wondering if it ok for me to interpret an old trick my way, and buy them wholesale and make a DVD? I got bashed in other topics for even mentioning this.
And it is okay, if you have a 'NAME' in magic. Double standard, I guess. I'm a nobody, so they say it is not okay.
I did meet Dan Fleshman, he came to my city. He does his version of the ninja rings also. He sells them and has them on his DVD also. I'm willing to bet a lot, if I were to DVD my routine and sell some rings, I would be punished, lol.

ACE