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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
What do you get when you multiply 2 times 2x2x4x4x6x6x8x8...... and divide it by
3x3x5x5x7x7x9x9...? Who first discovered this? Posted: Dec 12, 2005 6:59pm ------------------------------------------------- Hint: It was published in 1655. |
stanalger Special user St. Louis, MO 998 Posts |
Is it approximately equal to the square root of the square root of
2143/22? Didn't J.W. pass this on to Simon as he was going to the fair? |
Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
The answer is a more significant number but from your post I think you know what it is.
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LostSoul Regular user Dave 148 Posts |
OK, I'll take a stab at Pi? It seems to be pretty close using my rough math skills.
Dave |
Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
Pi is correct. Who derived this first in 1655?
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stanalger Special user St. Louis, MO 998 Posts |
I think it
WAS LI'L JOHN. |
Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
The correct answer is Pi and was derived in 1655 by John Wallis. The very astute stanalger submitted the correct answer by PM.
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James F Inner circle Atlanta 1096 Posts |
Very interesting! I didn't know that...Thanks for posting.
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
There's an excellent paperback book called "A History of Pi" by Petr Beckamnn fromm 2000BC to the present.
Posted: Dec 17, 2005 11:48am ------------------------------------------------- Here's alink for the book: amazon.com. |
Heinz Weber New user Austria 83 Posts |
Sorry, I don't get this one. Each number of the odd line (3x3x5x5x...) is bigger than the number on the same place in the even line (2x2x4x4x...). I think the division has to go to 0. Why am I wrong?
Thanks, Heinz |
Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
Heinz,
Good question. As we approach infinity the individual odd numbers and correspoding even numbers get closer together in value so their quotient gets closer to 1 not zero. It starts with 2/3x2/3= 4/9 =.444 At say 100 the new product will include 100/101x100/101= .980 which is getting close to 1. This allows the product to converge to a non zero number. Also, the product should be properly written 2 times 2x2x4x4x6x6x8x8 divided by 1x3x3x5x5x7x7. In the initial post I left out the 1 which was a mistake. For the first few numbers: 2 x (2x2)/(1x3) x (4x4)/((3x5) x (6x6)/(5x7) x (8x8)/(7x9) = 2.97 and so on until be get 3.14159.... |
Heinz Weber New user Austria 83 Posts |
Thank you Larry,
the missing 1 was my problem (i made an excel-sheet), now I see... In your last message I think it should read 2/1x2/3 instead of 2/3x2/3, an corresponding 100/99x100/101.... (I think if all part-quotients were smaller than 1 the whole thing (their product!) could not reach 1. Only with infinite sums there are a couple of astonishing effects, sum of 1/n to name a well known example.) Heinz PS: please forgive my sometimes poor english and terminology, I never wrote math-related textes in english before |
Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
Your English is very clear Heinz. It's amazing that this was pulished in 1655!
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