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EsKlibur
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Hi everyone! Hope everyone is doing well!
For those who don't know me (that is basically everyone Smile, I'd call myself an advanced beginner in card magic.

I have enough experience in street magic to amaze most audiences and that's great.

To the point, I have been asked by my university TV to do a weekly street magic show for them. One or a few tricks will be filmed in front of a real audience each week, with one or two camera guys following me across town.

I was wondering if any of you have advice to give, as of what kinds of tricks that shouldn't be performed on TV, and maybe how to get a great impact through TV.

I'm obviously new to TV so I'm unsure about the result at this stage Smile

I'm thinking of performing the following :
Color Monte
My handling of Henry Christ's Aces
A Card Divination through a smooth peek (I think Smile )
A chosen card found by the spectator after I try to make him loose tack of the card (he won't actually know where it is but still finds it)
Twisting the Aces
A classic Biddle steal move routine
Do as I do (Vernon, not sure about title)
...

Well if any of you want to let me know what you think, I'd appreciate it. Smile

Thanks,

Nick
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What University are you currently located at?

Good Luck BB
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If It's going to be a weekly special, and you are going to do 1-3 effects, spread your killer stuff out.

Mix in some of your more comfortable material in with one killer routine each week.

Time is very compressed on TV, so stay away from effects that require a 5 minute explanation. If you want it to look it's best, storyboard each effect out ahead of time. This will save you a bunch of time in production. It will also make life easier for the camera people if you already have the shots for each effect plotted out.

Take a lesson from Mr. Blaine and remember who you are performing for. Simple and direct is the best way to go for video, especially in a "street" setting.

I'm not the world's authority, but I do videography in addition to magic.

If you have any specific question or want some resources, feel free to email me at: jamesanthony@jvlnet.com. Hope this all helps you, and good luck!
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EsKlibur
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BlakeBlair: I'm at UEA, Norwich.

The levitator: Thanks for the advice. I did some table strolling in the union bar with a friend holding a dv-camera. I have about 50 minutes of performance.

I indeed intend to restrict it to 3 effects or so each week. I don't really have a storyboard, but I'll work on this idea for the next time, as I feel the presentation could be greatly improved if the cameraman knew a bit more about the trick timing.

Thanks again for your time.
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Yah, don't repeat effects either. Also, make sure you edit in the best reactions and cut out the long boring parts.

Try to make the TV show more magical then it would be in real life.

Also, try to edit out the "method" parts the could possible give away the method.

I hope you make a killer magic show.
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You should also have it agreed upon in writing that you will be available for editing as well...
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EsKlibur
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Oh, well the first episode is ready for airing now, so I'll be looking forward to do so.

RileyG: I do have the chance to have a 100% right to choose what I want on the screen as this is just a student TV.

Pyro: I did not edit my routines but just chose the ones where the rewind button couldn't do any harm to the secret (or very little).

I also have the best reactions from spectators chained in the 'trailer' and funny bits that occured at the end.

Anyway as a primary experienced I really enjoyed it and will be looking forward to do it again (as well as see people's reaction on comment after It's aired on campus!).

Thanks everyone for your help and comments. Smile
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I would try to work in a little variety in your act, not just cards. That would seem to lose people over the weeks. I would steer clear of anything performed a lot by Blaine etc. as they might have learned what to look for and make your tricks no fun. Plus, you don't want to try and match skill with anyone pro.
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I agree, stay away from the Blaine stuff and Criss Angel stuff as well!


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Yes ... do your own bits, the parts of your act that have your own, special moves and patter. Even your own effects if you have some. Everyone has a couple they came up with on their own.

May I suggest the Loomis/Riser micro chop cup, and vanishing sequence.

It is worthy of the time spent.
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I realize that, as a student, the time you can devote to this project is limited. It seems that you are, in effect, talent, director and producer.

I would like to suggest that you do a little reading about shooting video (or film, the techniques are similar) for editing. Learn about establishing shots, close-ups, intercuts and so forth. It will help you to provide footage that can be edited for maximum effect.

You might also want to consider the advantages of two cameras— one providing mostly full shots, one providing close ups and reaction shots.

It isn't rocket science, most of what you absolutely need to know is in print and it does make a big difference.

I'll be happy to help if you have any specific questions.

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To all of you that have purchased the Micro Chops... thank you so much. Your purchases and kind comments have exceeded all of our expectations.
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Just a thought— when doing big shows (300 people or more), I always get myself filmed, even if it's "guerrilla video" from a hand held device.

By judiciously editing down all my archive videos, I'm been able to put together a pretty killer 'show' that could be played as is on television—well, okay, it's not THAT good—but the best use is for a performance demo. Believe me, your greatest benefit from your shows will be the killer demo you'll be able to create which will make booking PAYING shows quite easy (or easier).
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Buy some nice cross trainers and get ready to chase them down the street saying, "wanna see a trick?" and you have half your act. Then round up a few local winos to do a rave review of your act. Then finally scrap all of this advice and go out and have fun.

Remember less is more and long build ups are boring to watch ... keep your magic "snappy".

After that, just have fun. If you really enjoy what you are doing it will show on tape.

...but then again I may be full of it.
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Go through angles a little bit with your cameraman. Some tricks are fine filmed over your shoulder and some are better over the spectators shoulder. Find a cameraman who does magic too.
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You should also try an ambitous card routine. just a thought. Smile
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So how was your show?! By now it must have aired. Did you do any other shows? Interested in how your college took it...

Keep it up!

bb Smile
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