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john wills Special user 939 Posts 
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Hello VEday,
I'am for sure: the most beautiful bottles are constructed by Keisuke Hanada and sold by Hocus Pocus. Even one foot away you would believe those are real winebottles. So contact Hocus Pocus for your questions. They cost a fortune, but it's a lifetime investment ! |
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john wills Special user 939 Posts
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Hi VEday,
Now the last information I will sent you. Look at this video carefully and you can select different methods for your act. Go to You tube and type: hugues protat alias edmond au plus grand cabaret du monde. More I can't say to you. |
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts
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In my humble opinion, Ken Brooke's 9 bottle routine is a CLASSIC and a thing of beauty.....that's why I've used for years, and as Pete Biro says, it always goes over and the flow is perfect. In fact, for that reason, it makes the perfect closing trick...
Having said that, I think it's very clever of Payne's use of camouflage to hide the discrepencies between bottle sizes in his 12-bottle bit, and it also adds a new dimension to the trick......but having said THAT...I have enough trouble "cleanly wrapping up" my 9 bottle set at the end of my routine....(you multiplying bottle workers will know what I mean)..........a 12 bottle set scares me in that regard, so hats off to those who can handle it! I seriously recommend getting the Ken Brooke routine and studying it carefully for those multiplying bottle workers or wannabees. It's that good. |
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R Don Regular user West Coast 197 Posts
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I agree; for most people the set of 9 is sufficient. You will realize that one day
when you have to carry them from the back of the room; or when someone else insists on helping. A set of 12 or more is ok if you always have a proper stage where the curtains close and you can clean up out of sight.I have used a set of 9 and people told me that Ihad about a dozen. They also usually do not look real in a living room situation - with some exceptions( difficult to exit too) It is a stage and cabaret trick. |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts
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[quote]On 2012-03-17 17:57, john wills wrote:
Go to You tube and type: hugues protat alias edmond au plus grand cabaret du monde. More I can't say to you. [/quote WOW! How many sets does he HAVE?? I love the steals! Great find, John! 
Doug |
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts
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A double WOW for that
hugues protat alias edmond au plus grand cabaret du monde I'll have to get my wife to watch that, she speaks French and I would like to know what he his saying. I did not see any steals. Either I was not paying attention or I'm going blind.... Thanks for that I'm going to look for more of his videos.
Et tu, Spartacus?
https://fineartamerica.com/profiles/chispadeelpaso.html |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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You cannot see any steals as the real magic is in that table. I would love to see all the mechanics working in there. It must be a mechanical marvel.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts
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Yeah, that it is! I knew WHEN he got the extra loads, but not sure where they're coming from...
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Thom Bliss Loyal user Southern California 271 Posts
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Here's a link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db2M677hHfM No steals? Look at 1:18-1:21, 2:37-38, 2:41-43. A lot of "Pay no attention to this tube, which goes below the top of the table, while I unload the other one." No doubt some steals may have occurred when the audience reactions were being shown. As for the table, look at the two big circles above the legs when viewed from above. |
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atouchofmagic1 Elite user 470 Posts
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For anybody interested I have a 10 bottle set of Tora multiplying wine bottles for sale in the sale forum. 235.00 shipped priority mail with tracking and insurance.
I'm trying to get the extra funds to help me get the multiplying rum bottles. -Bobby |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts
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Wow! Bobby I just went here just to look...
http://www.toramagic.com/htm/bottle.htm OMG, I have questions, but hesitate to ask. Further research is needed. Awesome looking bottles, and the variety, if these are as good a quality as they appear, this is really impressive! I've never seen such on one site! Doug |
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tboehnlein Inner circle ohio 1788 Posts
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"On 2012-03-17 17:57, john wills wrote:
Go to You tube and type: hugues protat alias edmond au plus grand cabaret du monde. More I can't say to you." OK Maybe it is just me but besides the large production of bottles doesn't he come across as a blithering idiot, not trying to be offensive but that is what I see. Juan Tamirez can get away with it because his magic is so amazing and technique w/o flaw, but sorry here I do not get it. |
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john wills Special user 939 Posts
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Tboehnlein,
Sorry for misunderstanding this. I did not give this reference for the performance, but for the TECHNIQUE. Protat uses different types of loading, that's why ! |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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On 2012-02-07 18:41, Higgenbottom wrote: It was published in Genii Magazine a long time ago. I am sure it is in Paul Osborne's book on the plans that appeared in Genii small appratus trick. Inquire with Paul Osborne as to which of his books. |
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Mach New user 49 Posts
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So is this for the most part a stage trick or will the bottles be too noticeable for a close up performance?
Thanks Mach |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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On 2012-05-26 06:59, Mach wrote: You are in the Stage, Platform and Parlour section of the Café. Honestly, why would you think it has anything to do with close-up performance. It has nothing to do with the bottles, it has to do with the fact that this is a presentation effect, with no interaction required from the audience. |
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Peter Cuddihy Veteran user Peter S. Cuddihy 369 Posts
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Can a set of ten bottles such as the Tora set be used to do the nine bottle Ken Brooke routine?
Perhaps, Pete Biro can weigh in here. Thanks! |
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Angelo Carbone V.I.P. 1486 Posts
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On Feb 6, 2012, billappleton wrote: Anyone have thoughts on this? Would love to know. Narrow necks at the front or back of display?
The Gift: Trick of the Year 2017
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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Angelo Carbone,
I never thought to over analyze this effect and handling, as the Ken Brooke routine is perfect as is. I believe if you go through the Ken Brooke routine as printed, you will realize your answer to your perplexed mind. Angelo, you did not take into consideration lighting and the way it affects what people actually see. Window nstural sun light as well as stage lighting from the floor and the rafters. Look forward to your analysis. |
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Angelo Carbone V.I.P. 1486 Posts
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@bill hegbli What if one doesn't want to do Ken Brooke's routine? I want to come up with my own routine and handling. Therefore he won't provide the answer to my 'perplexed mind'.
I have thought about lighting but I would still love to hear from someone who wants to answer the question about wide necks at front or back as Bill Appleton originally asked. I feel your reply didn't answer the question at all 🙂
The Gift: Trick of the Year 2017
My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/themagicinventor |
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Posted: Mar 16, 2012 02:59 pm 