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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts	Posted: Nov 5, 2004 06:06 pm 0 Quote: On 2004-11-05 13:02, Bill Palmer wrote: The Jim Ryan Ring, Rope and Stick routine is one of the best I have ever seen. It's in Jerry Mentzer's magic with finger rings book. Basically, here's what happens. You are facing a pair of spectators. You borrow a finger ring from one of them. You tie it onto a shoelace, string or rope. Each of them takes one end of the rope in one hand, whichever hand is closer to you as they face one another. You have a wand or stick under your left arm. You take the wand in your right hand and have them hold the ends of the wand with their free hand. At this point, the setup is -- Spectators are holding ends of rope and ends of wand. Your left hand is around the knotted ring, your right around center of wand. You pull on the center of the rope like a bowstring. The knot comes out of the rope and the ring vanishes -- simultaneously, you pull your right hand off the wand, and the ring is seen spinning on the middle of it. This looks like real magic. Yes Bill, that's exactly the routine I've on tape done expertly by Joachim Solberg..great memeories...and this also goes for the silk through wrist routine, IIRC, Jim Ryans too... Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything..... ( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... )
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24317 Posts	Posted: Nov 5, 2004 07:00 pm 0 I saw Phyllis Guggenheim do this at Magic Island. I can tell you that it was one of the most effective ideas I have ever seen. Also, let me say this -- get out of the DVD's and hit the books. Almost all the material on the DVD's is derivative material that you will find in books. "The Swatter" Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com
vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10972 Posts	Posted: Nov 6, 2004 03:28 pm 0 Bill not my Marterial, ....... all original not in print ......only on my dvd the godfather vinny Come check out my magic. http://www.vinnymarini.com
Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts	Posted: Nov 6, 2004 03:49 pm 0 Quote: On 2004-11-05 14:00, Bill Palmer wrote: I saw Phyllis Guggenheim do this at Magic Island. I can tell you that it was one of the most effective ideas I have ever seen. That's the one where you hold the specs hand (handshaking) so his hand doesn't fall off when the silk is pulled through with your other hand?? Right?? Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything..... ( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... )
Julie Inner circle 3885 Posts	Posted: Nov 6, 2004 05:56 pm 0 The Jim Ryan routine sounds a lot like the Charlie Miller routine...
Caution Regular user 176 Posts	Posted: Nov 11, 2004 04:26 pm 0 Daryl has a nice one too. Mike UBKuel, IBkuel.
wally Inner circle 1831 Posts	Posted: Mar 23, 2006 08:13 pm 0 Wish I could use a rope and compact disc, just like a ring and string routine.
SKILL Regular user Florida 145 Posts	Posted: Mar 25, 2006 11:12 pm 0 I seen so many rings and strigs routines over the years easy to do really hard to do,thats way I came out whith my own routine R3 the ultimate ring and lace routine and I personaly show to a really good magicians here in the florida area and they all agree is really good,entertaining and very important take less than a half an hour to learn. I hope I can show you this in person............Thanks In order to arrive at perfeccion you must go through the failure Japanese Thoughts
vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10972 Posts	Posted: Mar 27, 2006 02:42 pm 0 Skill not all of us live in Florida however why don't you put up a demo .. since you say it is the ultimate Ring and lace routine I would love to see it. the godfather Come check out my magic. http://www.vinnymarini.com
zennomind New user 16 Posts	Posted: Mar 27, 2006 08:02 pm 0 I have done a variation of "Threading the Needle" with rope and a ring.
wally Inner circle 1831 Posts	Posted: Mar 28, 2006 12:00 pm 0 Who performs /or sell the best Ring and Rope routine. for stage work.
John Long Inner circle New Jersey 2826 Posts	Posted: Apr 4, 2006 02:11 am 0 In case anyone was interested in the Jim Ryan rope, ring and wand routine, it can be found in the new Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks. Breathtaking Magic; Not Breath Taking
Mike.Shots Regular user Terrell 199 Posts	Posted: Apr 4, 2006 02:43 am 0 Wally, most of the professionally marketed ring and string acts out there are going to be great. I've personally only seen Gregory Wilson's and Diamond Jim's, and they're both fantastic. If you want to buy 1 video or book, I'd reccomend Gregory Wilson's "Ring Leader" for one reason. Not only does it give you an already constructed routine you can follow, the ring leader routine, but the rest of the video is a massive encyclopedia of random R&S moves that you can easily plut into your routine, or create your own from scratch. All of the moves on the DVD are very visual, and not too difficult.
ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts	Posted: May 3, 2006 08:48 pm 0 Quote: On 2004-10-16 19:47, kerpa wrote: Speaking strictly as an amateur magish, I would recommend The Restaurant Magic of Dan Fleshman, volume 1, which has many great basic routines, including sponge bunnies, a good rope routine - and Ring and String Flight. I am in the process of learning the middle section (see more below), as a complement to my card effects. Dan's routine is great and it's the one routine I learned when I started doing magic and never stopped doing. I've neen doing it for 15 years now.
Joey Evans Special user Fort Myers, FL 535 Posts	Posted: May 4, 2006 03:35 am 0 SKILL, I too would be interested in seeing yours. I now perform a variation of Bob Millers routine with some of my own thinking thrown it. Would love to see yours, I also live in Florida. The Visual Comedy and Magic of Joey Evans http://www.Evansmagic.com/ The Impossible Has Never Been So Funny!
macp New user 11 Posts	Posted: May 4, 2006 05:13 pm 0 Quote: On 2004-10-11 21:15, KidMagic87 wrote: Are there any good sources for a ring-and-string routine (for finger rings). Anything better than Gregory Wilson's video, or is that all that's good? I bought this one some time ago and there was many fine effects on this DVD. http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/customer/pr......p;page=1 Here i am but can you see me?
clusters New user 62 Posts	Posted: May 7, 2006 04:28 pm 0 I think Swing-a-Ring is a very good effect. Though it has gotten some mixed reviews
Murdoch82 New user 65 Posts	Posted: May 11, 2006 08:25 pm 0 Ring & String gets pretty personnel. I cop from the best. You can mix and match and come up with an entertaining bit. There are many bits with ring and rope which acn be scaled down to the ring & string.