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Jeff Haas Special user 932 Posts 
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I dropped by my local Joann's at lunch and tried it out. It's a lot thicker than the other threads I covered in my video, and for me, it's just a bit too tough. You have to really pull on it to break it, but it is easier to break than the crochet thread. My little fingers got slightly abraded so doing a full routine for me would probably draw blood.
Also, due to it being a lot thicker, it's going to ball up into a bigger ball. Take a look at the picture, which shows a strand of the Lily yarn next to the others from my video. http://s227.photobucket.com/user/Jeff_Ha......jpg.html http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/Jeff_Haas/Misc/Lilyyarn_zps9ed0ac3a.jpg |
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts
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Did you try getting your fingers close together and rolling them apart to break the thread? Tony Clark demonstrates that particular technique on his website for those with trouble breaking his thread, which is still a bit harder than the Lily brand thread.
Try going down to two or three ply and see if that works for you. In the end, I do not know your hands/skin condition so even after all of that, using even two or three strands still may be too thick for you personally. |
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Cris Cringle New user 74 Posts
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Hello
I would like to incorporate this effect into my routine. I have the Eugene Burger VHS on this and am looking to do something similar. I like the suggestion above of using flash string to end the effect with "and it was all just an illusion" however I also like the Eugene Burger method with a small candle. What then is the best string to use in a close up situation? Thank you |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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Cris, flash string is very dangerous, it is not like flash paper or cotton. It has a lot of flames when it burns. I would not not advise using flash sting close up.
-------------------------------------------------------------- Post office teaches to wrap the string around two finger, bring it back up and over then across, if you pull the end, it will use the cross string as the break point. No pressure on any of your fingers. Solved! |
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Cris Cringle New user 74 Posts
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Thanks Bill
I have only used flash paper in the past and not very often (like a couple of times) Thanks for the tips. I can't quite picture your postal way for snapping the string though. Cris Quote:
On 2013-10-02 21:39, Bill Hegbli wrote: |
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john wills Special user 939 Posts
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Crisr,
It's or or. Or you use a flash cord and you can perform it as I wrote before. Then, before you light the flash cord, you trip one step back, a few foot away from the onlookers. Or you use another piece of thread and perform it as learned by Eugene Burger. |
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Cris Cringle New user 74 Posts
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Hello again
Well what a day at the shops. I went to a specialists sewing shop today and they had the blankest look when I asked them about basting thread. In fact when I stumbled on my pronunciation of Gutermann the young lady did not understand I meant Gutermann and directed me to the polyester chinese thread on sale. I found the Gutermann threads in another isle (on my own looking for something else) and there were none listed as "Basting Thread" However the Gutermann product numbers (after googling Gutermann basting thread) for white basting thread was the same as "natural cotton" Gutermann thread. I am not sure if this is the same thread or not but it seems to break fairly easy. now do any of you use wax or other in the second string to help keep it all bunched up? In my practice I have found the 2nd string wanting to unravel some and hang out in sight. Is it just more practice on palming or is there some secrets to holding onto the second string. Thanks C. |
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korttihai_82 Inner circle Finland 1882 Posts
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I got the german thread recommended in the video and it works wonderfully. Really easy to break and bundles up well into ball without any problems. However it is not super visible but it has worked fine up to 60-70 people. Rechecked also mcCombs and Nick Lewins routines (both known for doing the routine on the stage) and they both actually ditch the pieces bundle instead of keeping it hidden between the fingers. That allows them to use much thicker thread.
Juha-Matti |
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Jeff Haas Special user 932 Posts
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Cris,
I couldn't find the Gutermann basting thread in any store near me, that's why I suggested ordering it via the web. They had every Gutermann thread EXCEPT the basting thread! (This is in the US.) Juha-Matti, For stage use, you'll want to try out the various yarns and the candlewick thread. And I'd go with anything Billy McComb suggested, he really knew his stuff. Jeff |
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itsmagic Inner circle middle earth 1117 Posts
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Thanks for video Jeff! Although, the German basting thread looks thin, I just ordered it from Watson and Thorton for $7.60 to US. Hoping this thread is visible enough for parlour and works well for Gypsy Balloon.
Previously, from the recommendation of Café members, I searched Joann's for SuperFine Yarn and found one by the name of Premier Yarns (premieryarns.com) Deborah Norville Collection Serenity Sock Weight. It is rated Super Fine #1 and 2.75mm. It was the easiest to break out of all the yarns I looked at in the store, but it still hurts my fingers. Could be that this yarn is not "pure yarn." The composition is 50% superwash merino wool, 25% rayon, 25% nylon. |
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Quentin Inner circle 1020 Posts
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On Jul 25, 2013, Jeff Haas wrote: I suspect that Billy used Chadwick's Mending Thread which was easily available in the UK. Sadly no longer made. |
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itsmagic Inner circle middle earth 1117 Posts
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Received the German Basting thread today and it does bread easily, but is not suitable for Gypsy Balloon. The thread is too thin.
Although the 2.75mm yarn does not break as easily as the thread, it's a better option for Gypsy Balloon. That yarn breaks easier than any other yarn I've found. |
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wally Inner circle 1831 Posts
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Talking about Gypsy thread, Has anyone tried Anthony Asimov Alien thread from his Alien concept dvd. is it anygood, please let me know. magicwalsh@gmail.com
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Gismologic Regular user 171 Posts
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I too tried the Lily "Sugar & Cream Thread and totally agree with the observation that:
although it breaks easy and is visible, the ball wants to unspring and also ends up too large.. I have found Gutermann's basting thread on Amazon UK really inexpensive... Only concern is visibility.... Love the Eugene Berger Relationship restoration aspect of the back story.. simple powerful hint of bizarre. |
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2150 Posts
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I went to the local sewing shop recently to look for basting thread. They have dissolving thread, but did not know what I meant by basting thread. Amazing. And a little sad.
I'll have to check online, I suppose. -Patrick |
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RS1963 Inner circle 2736 Posts
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Basting thread is hard to find in the U.S. you can find it but when you do it's often too thin to be seen from much more than a foot or two away. Wicking yarn which I think has been mentioned already is another option. It is thicker than Basting thread and is very easy to break. But like Basting thread it can be abit of a bear to find anywhere but on the internet.
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JordanB Special user dallas, tx 626 Posts
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Richard Hatch has the work on this trick. You can get it on Volume 1 of the Friends of Roger Klause DVD. Richard did a lecture at the Dallas Super Sesion a few years back and he talked in detail on the exact type of thread he used for this trick; however, I can't recall what he said in particular. I don't recall if he discusses it on the DVD.
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RS1963 Inner circle 2736 Posts
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On Mar 18, 2015, JordanB wrote: Punch embroidery thread. If I'm not mistaken is what Richard Hatch said that he uses. |
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 2001 Posts
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I've always been partial to Gypsy Floss. No worries about breaking the thread as the cutter is built in and the waxed thread aides in doing the effect.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel J. Boorstin |
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Donald the Average New user 17 Posts
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'Illusion Craft' (www.illusioncraft.co.uk) sells stripable flash string.
One strand looks like cotton thread and is ideal for use close-up. At the end of the routine you simply make the 'evidence' disappear. |
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Posted: Sep 10, 2013 12:18 am 