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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts 
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I support gun rights for law abiding citizens. I have financially supported the NRA, though I stopped when I felt like they were going a bit beyond what I was comfortable with.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 11:35, LobowolfXXX wrote: My understanding is that at least one of my best friends does. He did the paperwork and training so as to this. So, sure. Why wouldn't I?
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 11:35, LobowolfXXX wrote: What good are unloaded weapons when one is in the midst of a break-in or home invasion? All of my weapons are loaded and accessible (unless children are visiting). Brian
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 12:18, balducci wrote: I have to qualify my answer as to what my friend does. I'm not sure whether his guns are loaded or unloaded. Either way, it doesn't matter to me. I'm okay with what you asked.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 12:18, balducci wrote: I don't know why you would or wouldn't, but many people don't.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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In case anyone cares, I have no objection to citizens having guns. But I also have no objections to gun control/registration/mandatory training legislation.
I used to hunt, and owned a shotgun and rifle. I would NEVER have considered having them loaded in the house. I wouldn't even store the gun and ammunition in the same place. I believe that the likelihood of an accident is much higher than the likelihood of my suffering a home invasion. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Woland Special user 680 Posts
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That's your decision to make for you and your family, Magnus. Others' mileage may vary . . . .
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 13:23, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: The odds of home invasion are definitely in your favor of not happening. It will probably never happen to you. Be thankful. However if it does feel free to call the police and defend yourself until they arrive. Punch them in the nose or just yell out "Stop and get our of my house" that might work. However if it does not work, you nor your family are not likely to tell us so. As they say, "Good luck with that". You probably don't purchase lottery tickets either. Not much chance of hitting it.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16557 Posts
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The best policy today is the GGG policy: Gold, Guns and a Getaway plan.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 14:15, acesover wrote: "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." Brian
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 14:42, tommy wrote: Nah, the best policy is SSS: Shoot, Shovel and Shut-up. Brian
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 13:23, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: What form of control and registration? Other than the obvious of keeping firearms out of the hands of felons and the mentally ill. Brian
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 14:58, bblumen wrote: That's pretty much it. I don't see a problem with requiring that firearms be registered, much like automobiles. BTW, Canada totally screwed up the process and took what should have been a fairly straightforward process and turned it into a massive institutional failure. The problem wasn't that guns were required to be registered, the problem is that the program developed to do it was absurdly mismanaged and highly over budget. I suspect that the current government will close the program with hardly a complaint from a public that does not believe it got value for its money. John
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 15:09, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: So, the government should have a registry of every law abiding citizen that owns firearms? Your analogy to firearms and motor vehicles is ridiculous! Motor vehicles are registered to allow local governments to collect fees (or, at least, that is the way it used to be). Maybe we should register ammunition as well? Brian
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts
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Arent cars also registered so they could be found in case of an accident, crime, stolen parts ect? Not just for money for the evil gov. The real issue is far to many people own guns that shouldn't and many of these guns are able to do things other than hunt. Why would someone need a silenced M4? Or a .50cal sniper rifle? Playing army was over when we turned 12.
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts
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I don't own a gun. I never have, and maybe never will. But I strongly support the right of law-abiding citizens to own guns. It's a cliche, but it is also a truism: "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn
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Woland Special user 680 Posts
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The real difference is that owning an automobile & driving an automobile are not God-given rights that the Constitution obliges the government to respect.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts
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On 2011-10-04 15:59, Woland wrote: God given rights. Where were guns mentioned in the Bible? 
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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May I also point out that I live in a country that does mention arms in its constitution, and that may have something to do with my opinion.
Also, I agree with kcg5 that by having all legal firearms registered, it gives the courts one more weapon with which to fight crime. John
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Woland Special user 680 Posts
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The origin of the rights that the Constitution protects is stated in the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights . . ." The right to self-defense is God-given and inalienable. No man-made law can trump that, at least in so far as the laws of the United States are concerned.
Let me add, that the privately held Pennsylvania long rifle of 1790 ("Kentucky rifle" if you prefer)was nearly infinitely superior, in experienced hands, to the smoothbore musket with which military units were equipped, and at ranges of up to 200 yards, every bit as accurate and deadly as a modern rifle. |
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