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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4204 Posts 
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Yes, very nice (!), also the alternative for the "usual" bo***m d**l ... still, I would prefer my handling as it looks so clean, no real moves at all, everything happens on the table, nothing in the hands... Jan
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ipe Special user 515 Posts
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Hi Jan, I saw the ESPissimo (Italian name?
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Have you ever found someone having some suspicions on your non-move? Do you think it require some form of misdirection to be fully deceptive? From your video I understand you perform the effect minimum 2 times, not counting the cases 1 or 2, right? What if you have case 5 the first time, would you continue a second time? In case the first time you have a case 4 and the second time a case 2, how do you justify this discrepancy? Thanks, Ipe
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4204 Posts
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Case 5 - I would not repeat it (only exception as it is a full hit...). Case 4 and then case 2 is not a problem if you act like, "would you like to see already how good you've done already until now...?"
... I never needed (until today) any form of misdirection, in the "worst case", direct eye contact and probably lifting your forefinger on the level of your eyes is really enough...  Jan
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ipe Special user 515 Posts
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Thank you very much, Jan
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Mystic Pudding New user 10 Posts
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Jazz Mentalism/Rhine's Revenge is my favorite and easy to do.
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PsiDroid Inner circle 2164 Posts
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Of course there is no one best effect for everyone it's different; surely a very interesting booklet is "Mind Novas" from Stephen Minch
So many good and clever principles applied to ESP decks, it deserves a good and thourough reading... |
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stevie c Veteran user 342 Posts
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I love Jazz Mentalism for it's elegance and simplicity. My only slight gripe with all the ESP routines I've played around with has nothing to do with the routines themselves. It's actually the cards... or more specifically the symbols on them!! I know ESP cards have stood the test of time but I do sometimes wonder how!!
Never once has a spectator been familiar with such a set of cards / symbols when I've introduced them, which I guess isn't particularly surprising as they are pretty abstract. Is this a problem? Maybe not, and I'll continue to use my sets of standard ESP cards. I recently came across these ESP cards:- https://blackcatmagic.co.uk/index.php/pr......p-cards/ What struck me about this idea is how it may be perceived by a spectator. I think lots of people would definitely find well known rock bands/singers a more tangible concept than five symbols? If you can better stimulate a spectator's interest by using a different premise, perhaps the effect will be even more memorable? Anyways I've ordered a set of these, as I think they will suit my presentation and style. I wondered what others' thoughts on this approach are? BW Steve |
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j100taylor Inner circle 1198 Posts
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It’s the one you create.
Just kidding! It’s 4DT.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts
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On Feb 16, 2021, stevie c wrote: I think these turn a mentalism effect into a magic trick. |
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stevie c Veteran user 342 Posts
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On Feb 16, 2021, Martin Pulman wrote: Surely that would depend on one's presentation Martin, otherwise the implication is that a matching effect could only be considered mentalism if it's performed with cards bearing Zener symbols? BW Steve |
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ipe Special user 515 Posts
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On Feb 15, 2021, PsiDroid wrote: Hi PsiDroid, do you have some specific effects/principles to suggest from that booklet?
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts
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On Feb 16, 2021, stevie c wrote: Surely that would depend on one's presentation Martin, otherwise the implication is that a matching effect could only be considered mentalism if it's performed with cards bearing Zener symbols? BW Steve [/quote] I think the props you use are a vital component of good mentalism. |
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PsiDroid Inner circle 2164 Posts
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On Feb 17, 2021, ipe wrote: Wtithout being near the book now, I recall having performed - Either Or, DoppleGanger, Genesis II, Quatrain... |
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ipe Special user 515 Posts
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On Feb 17, 2021, PsiDroid wrote: Thank you, PsiDroid!
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fowill New user Chile 30 Posts
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There's such an incredible amount of ifferent types of ESP cards and routines. For me, the beat is first to do some research about ESP symbols experiment, Dr. Rhine (there are interesting connections with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle...). In terms of routines after looking at dozens of them, I'm keeping with Ben Blau's Unfazed and Jazz Mentalism (David Humphrey).
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Magonil New user 62 Posts
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I always carry in my wallet, perfect esp
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AlexanderG Veteran user No more and no less than 366 Posts
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Anyone have any tips on their favorite first card turn-over move in "Jazz Mentalism"? Would love to hear here (if you can use double-speak) or via DM. Many thanks.
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Darkness Inner circle 1636 Posts
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I prefer to tell engaging stories with esp that are not based on labs while interpreting and giving meaning to the actual symbols.
With a book of fun routines. http://mrdarkness.com/helloween/
THE SUPERNATURAL ILLUSIONIST & EFFECTS CREATOR WWW.MRDARKNESS.COM
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Psychiac New user 47 Posts
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On May 1, 2023, AlexanderG wrote: I've fumbled around with the same question unhappily, and lately have just blatantly conveyed something where it needs to be with a lot of natural body language, a pinch of patter and a dash of timing misdirection. For me, to my initial surprise and for whatever reason(s), this draws less focus than whatever I had been occasionally telegraphing with other options. My poor and deluded memory suggests that the Eclipse tutorial may have been what inspired me to give this a try... |
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