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Natural Mystic![]() Special user Atlanta, GA 510 Posts ![]() |
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The best magic table bases are located in a pro music store, there called cymbal stands. I bought a Gibraltar cymbal stand an converted it into a balloon holder stand, when I busk or sold balloon sculptures. The best aspect about cymbal stands is that they are made to withstand abuse on the road. My cymbal stand has lasted for six years and still going strong, with no repairs needed. I am more into mentalism these days and needed a table , so, I added a drum throne seat bracket and shaft to the cymbal stand. Then, I purchased a professional looking 26’x16’’black aluminum case and attached the drum throne seat bracket to the case. The set-up looks very professional. Gibraltar also makes a percussion table that would make an ideal magic table. Cymbal stands can be purchased from pawn shops for a reasonable price Gibraltar cymbal stands Gibraltar Percussion table 26’x16’’black aluminum case Peace.
"You never change the existing reality by
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Scruffy the Clown Loyal user Coldwater,MI 233 Posts ![]() |
I too, made my table base out of a cymbal stand. They work the best and are built to take it long term.
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Natural Mystic![]() Special user Atlanta, GA 510 Posts ![]() |
Scruffy,
What did you use as the flange? I used the seat bracket off an old drummer's throne, to support my aluminum case. Walter
"You never change the existing reality by
fighting it. Instead, create a new model that makes the old one obsolete." -- R. Buckminster Fuller |
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Budihaha![]() Veteran user Bandung - Indonesia 331 Posts ![]() |
Me too, use a cymbal stand for table.
I cut the pin point, then welded a bolt. For the flange, I welded 2 nuts, which are the bolt set, to a piece of metal sheet. Made 4 hole on the metal sheet, then mounted it with 4 screws to the table top. Now I have several type of tables, with only one stand. Just my 2 Indonesian Rupiah. Budi Ha Ha |
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mdspark![]() Special user 784 Posts ![]() |
Is there an easier way for a flange?...could you just cut off the top..where the cymbal connects then have the top threaded?....could you find a flange to fit at say Lowe's or Home Depot or a hardware store???
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JamesinLA![]() Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts ![]() |
Do you guys think the cymbal stand could hold a blammo box with a rabbit? Thanks.
Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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Scruffy the Clown Loyal user Coldwater,MI 233 Posts ![]() |
Mdspark, You won the contest!
I used a standard plummers flange and Nipple. I cut the stand down and the second section and soldered a copper fitting to it and treaded on the nipple and then soldered it also. To assemble I open the base, screw the nipple into the flangeset the height where I want it,and put the drape over it. The cymbal stand I used is an inexpensive Dixon double braced one that I had in my trap case. (I have a drumset) The gibralter is undoubtedly better, I just needed one right now for a gig. Eventually I'll make a better one, but because I had the stand and 3/4 plywood for the top, It cost me about $4.00 to build my table. James, If you go with a good heavy stand, yes, without question. some of the stands I sold at the music store I operated when open completely, would easily eat up three feet. They are very stable. Go to your local guitar center and take a look at them. |
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5727 Posts ![]() |
I used microphone stands and Mic holder flanges when I built my tables. I'm sure they aren't quite as sturdy as a cymbal stand, but they are sturdy enough for me. They have adjustable height, they are lightweight and fold up to a very compact size. I got the black ones, just as personal preference. My tops are made from 3/4" plywood and I really took time to sand and prep them to get a real "slick" finish. The flange is fine threaded and it screws on easily with no wobbling. I am really pleased with them. I used to have Eureka stands aand I was not happy with them at all.
Regan
Mister Mystery
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George Ledo![]() Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3045 Posts ![]() |
About ten years ago I was trying to figure out how to put a top on an old three-legged center-post stand with removable legs (I suspect it may have been a 60's vintage mike stand, but I don't have a clue), and finally came up with a quick and effective solution using a 3/8" pipe nipple and flange. The nipple slid inside the upright tube but was just a bit loose, so I wrapped it with masking tape until it was snug. Then I used a set screw thru the upright to hold the nipple in place inside. The threaded part stuck out the top and the flange screwed onto it. It was amazingly sturdy.
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
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Chance Wolf![]() Inner circle 2425 Posts ![]() |
Hey guys,
Mak Magic and folks have been selling these for years and making a KILLING!!! Eureka base id the typical name. I have spent any years as a musician and can gurantee this is the cheapest link you will find for cymbal stands. Have fun and dig around thru the website. You may find more goodies. Check out the Drummer Seats. These come with a Flange I believe. They are a bit low but an extension can be added using other parts. Just an idea and the price is GREAT! drummer seats OK... here are the Female threaded Flanges. Here is a Male Threaded Flange You may want to call for the actual applications Hey... who's da coolest?! Chance ![]()
Creator of Wacky Wolf Productions & Fine Collectibles
A DECADE of building Magic and we're just getting started! http://www.wolfsmagic.com |
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knmagic![]() Elite user 436 Posts ![]() |
You are Chance.
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5727 Posts ![]() |
Sweetwater Music has great prices on mic stands. I haven't checked their cymbal stands, but all their stuff is priced extremely competive.
Regan
Mister Mystery
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hugmagic Inner circle 7680 Posts ![]() |
Use a standard plumbers flange. Take an electrical conduit connector and slip if over the end of the pipe and tighten the screw and you are done. Add super glue if you wish.
Chance is correct Mak as has made a killing on this "Eureka" bases for years. I used some the same companies other products so I bought some of this style also. To get direct from the company, you have to buy about 4 dozen bases. I would look on ebay for good used drum stands. I also used another brand of music stand that had a wider base and was stable. I have since stopped using all of them to go to a more stable and lighter base.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Natural Mystic![]() Special user Atlanta, GA 510 Posts ![]() |
Chance,
The drummer's Throne seat bracket(3-1)I used is by TAMA drums because of the weight of my case and props. The In Stand company sells a heavy duty model that looks a lot like a cymbal stand for $200.00
"You never change the existing reality by
fighting it. Instead, create a new model that makes the old one obsolete." -- R. Buckminster Fuller |
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Salazar Magic![]() Veteran user New Jersey 344 Posts ![]() |
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Chance Wolf![]() Inner circle 2425 Posts ![]() |
WOW Salazar!!! That is a GREAT DEAL!! Have you purchased one yet? What is the quality like?
by the way...VERY COOL Avatar! Chance
Creator of Wacky Wolf Productions & Fine Collectibles
A DECADE of building Magic and we're just getting started! http://www.wolfsmagic.com |
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Stanyon![]() Inner circle Landrum, S.C. by way of Chicago 3434 Posts ![]() |
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On 2005-01-08 17:27, Salazar Magic wrote: This is exactly what I've been using for Center/Side tables for the last 20+ years. And a great price too! Cheers! ![]()
Stanyon
aka Steve Taylor "Every move a move!" "If you've enjoyed my performance half as much as I've enjoyed performing for you, then you've enjoyed it twice as much as me!" |
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imagique![]() New user 61 Posts ![]() |
I prefer a lightweight show, with a lightweight, more compact stand.
I use the lighter weight sheet music stands, and get a threaded rod that fits precisely inside of the smaller telescoping tube. You can weld the threaded rod to the ridge of the tube, with about 3/8" protruding. Make a flange out of a steel strap that can be screwed/bolted/riveted to the bottom of the table. Have the nut that fits the threaded rod welded to the bottom of the strap of metal. You'll want the strap of metal to be just thick enough metal that you can bend the flange by moving the stand around until it's level. If it's thick enough, the table will stay level. The small, welded nut makes this travel extremely flat, and the threaded rod is very solid. The hookup is very clean, almost invisible. Let me know if you have any questions about the setup. JF |
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts ![]() |
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On 2005-01-09 16:59, Stanyon wrote: Can you provide measures for the table top? Thanks |
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Stanyon![]() Inner circle Landrum, S.C. by way of Chicago 3434 Posts ![]() |
Carlos,
23 inches long by 18 inches wide (57.5 cm by 45 cm, if I did my metric conversion correctly.) Cheers! ![]()
Stanyon
aka Steve Taylor "Every move a move!" "If you've enjoyed my performance half as much as I've enjoyed performing for you, then you've enjoyed it twice as much as me!" |