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DWRackley
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Thought about putting this in one of the coin forums, but for what it is, the Workshop seemed more logical.

I have had a Scotch and Soda for almost 30 years. It’s in great shape, and the seam is still invisible when it’s locked. Last week I accidently dropped the smaller coin on the floor and it separated.

Now I’m wondering what’s the best method for bonding the two faces back together again? If it matters, the two coins are a Kennedy Half and a Centavo.

Can it be as simple as super-glue?

Thanks in advance,

Don
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This topic has been covered many times on this thread and in the coin thread. There are varing opinions to solving this repair.

If you coin is a Johnson Coin set, return to them, as they have a life time guarantee on their coins. They will repair and return to you, only cost is postage.

Some use superglue, if you have the some face showing creating highs and lows, then use the jell kind that is gap filling.

Some say J.B. Weld 2 part glue. Try to clean the coins with some of the glue remover on the market, like Goo Gone or the solvent remover for contact cement. See your favorite Hardware Store for the products.

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I have used J.B. Weld for some home fixit projects. This stuff is excellent for metal to metal bonding.
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I've used J.B. Weld for other things, but I'm thinking it's just too thick for this. I want it super clean. The metal is shiny smooth, and I think regular thin super glue is going to work. I figure I’ve got one shot to make it clean, so I’m studying how moisture and oxidation will affect the bond. It’s probably overkill, but I don’t want to have to do this again.

Thanks for the input, guys!
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Super glue and duct tape. What we do without them.
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One of my first tri-fold production boxes was made of cardboard and duct tape. Man that was a long time ago...

To complete the initial question, I used regular superglue to hold the halfs together. Used the coin maybe a couple dozen times so far it looks like it's going to hold. Yay!

Thanks to all who offered their help!
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I just dropped my sun and moon from my hopping half set and it's starting to come apart. I'm glad I found this thread.
DWRackley did you just put a dab on and clamp it down?
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On 2010-04-14 06:52, adamferrucci wrote:
I just dropped my sun and moon from my hopping half set and it's starting to come apart. I'm glad I found this thread.
DWRackley did you just put a dab on and clamp it down?


Drop it again until it comes totally apart. Do not try to pry the coins apart as this will bend the metal and it will never be able to be re-assembled. Just a suggestion.
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I'd hate to drop it on purpose. Good advice though because I was looking at it thinking thinking about trying to separate them to fix it. I will definitely wait until it completely falls apart before trying to fix it. Thank You
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Actually used three dabs corresponding to the points of a triangle about halfway between the center and edge (not a whole drop, just a drip on the tip and dab it on).

To make sure I had it lined up on the first shot, I laid the "bottom" half face down (glue side up) in the bottom corner of a shallow metal box, using the two side walls as a "guide" to line up the top half.

I just used thumb pressure for about half a minute, then put it in the middle of a deck of cards and used a wooden screw type clamp to put just a little pressure on it. (I know too much pressure will warp wood joints, but I haven't worked a lot with metal. Figured it was better to go easy.)

It looks like it worked.

I also second the advice on not prying anything. I used to have a set of Chop Cups and Coins, until the metal plate started lifting on one of the coins. Thought I could slide a knife blade under it to "gently" lift it the rest of the way. Completely ruined it to an unrepairable state. Argh!
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Thank you for explaining DWRackley. I will be trying exactly what you did when mine eventually falls completely apart.
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Score the sides to be glued.JB weld gets my vote.epoxy gives out in time.i use JB on the manifold of a model t ford and have no probs w/heat or recoming apart.