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m.ruetz Veteran user Peoria Arizona, USA 378 Posts |
This article has some suggestion some are expensive but other are not:
http://magicgizmo.com/home/Magic-Worksho......ers.html
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AGMagic Special user Cailf. 775 Posts |
[quote]On 2009-10-16 00:51, Michael Baker wrote:
Hi Gilbert, Welcome to The Magic Café! Pay heed to everything Spellbinder said, plus learn to draw your own plans for these smaller projects. If you understand how these basic boxes are put together, then you can knock out a workable set of plans in very short order. They may not be the prettiest "sellable" plans, but certainly enough to have you cutting the correct size pieces. I have a ring binder that is full of the ones I've made for my own use. Google has a free drawing program that allows you to make very detailed and dimensionally correct 3D drawings. These drawings can then be disassembled to produce details of the individual pieces you need to build your project. The program is called sketch up and is fairly intuative to use. On line help sessions are available.
Tim Silver - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Magic-Woodshop/122578214436546
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Thanks much for that info. I'll be checking that out very soon. I learned basic drafting in school, so my methods generally involve a pencil and a straight edge.
~michael baker
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AGMagic Special user Cailf. 775 Posts |
Sketch up is great. I learned about it from my woodworking magazines. I've used it for designing furnture; shop workstations; a walkway, stairs and a ramp for a tennis court; and of course several magic projects. The free version will do anything you need for woodworking.
Tim Silver - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Magic-Woodshop/122578214436546
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3045 Posts |
I love SketchUp (I use it in my work as a theatrical designer), but it does have one little itsy-bitsy problem. It's so easy to draw, say, a rectangle and then "Push-Pull" it to form a box, that, unless you're very careful, everything you design ends up looking like a box. Then there's the Offset feature, which lets you do "stairstep" or "wedding cake" constructions so fast that you get tempted to use it all the time. I've seen way too many designs done totally in it, which look like they were done by a robot.
You may want to take a peek at my column on this topic. Just click on the link in my signature below.
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
www.georgefledo.net Latest column: "Sorry about the photos in my posts here" |
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Magic Researcher Elite user 406 Posts |
I like ViaCAD v. 6
It is affordable and allows both 2D and 3D drawing. MR
Repeating a falsehood often and loudly does not make it true.
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tabman Inner circle USA 5946 Posts |
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On 2010-05-06 19:49, George Ledo wrote:...You may want to take a peek at my column on this topic. Just click on the link in my signature below... You did a find job illustrating the article. I loved your handmade sketches. They look a lot like what I do when Im visualizing how things will go together. Im sure you could build perfectly using your handmade sketches but the combo really illustrated the point. Thanks for sharing.
...Your professional woodworking and "tender" loving care in the products you make, make the wait worthwhile. Thanks for all you do...
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majik_1 New user 95 Posts |
Does anyone here know where I can get Tommy Wonder and Stephen Minch - Books of Wonder vol.1 without paying a fortune? I have vol 2
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
You should get 50 legitimate posts and then ask in the Buy/Sell forum. Those are Café rules.
~michael baker
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3045 Posts |
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On 2010-05-07 00:42, tabman wrote: You're more than welcome. Happy to share. You put your finger on an interesting point. Sure, I could have probably built a piece directly from the hand sketches (and I've done it a number of times), but I did need the detailed drawings to show the construction crew what I wanted. So in this case we needed both. On the other hand, I've seen a number of cases where someone creates unbelievably detailed drawings for something they're going to build on their own, and I always wonder if the drawing has become a project in itself.
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
www.georgefledo.net Latest column: "Sorry about the photos in my posts here" |
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tabman Inner circle USA 5946 Posts |
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On 2010-05-07 15:32, George Ledo wrote:...You put your finger on an interesting point. Sure, I could have probably built a piece directly from the hand sketches (and I've done it a number of times), but I did need the detailed drawings to show the construction crew what I wanted. So in this case we needed both.... You can see the details in your minds-eye but with those detailed drawings almost anyone who knew their way around tools and materials could build to the 3-d drawings. Anyway, I enjoyed reading it again and looking at the illustrations. Very good article.
...Your professional woodworking and "tender" loving care in the products you make, make the wait worthwhile. Thanks for all you do...
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AGMagic Special user Cailf. 775 Posts |
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On 2010-05-06 19:49, George Ledo wrote: George, great article. I agree that you can easily make everything look like a box, but then again I am mostly building variations of boxes so that is not a problem. My first sketch-up project was a toe pincher coffin for a comedy murder mystery dinner theatre. It really helped to visualize the finished project before the build started.
Tim Silver - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Magic-Woodshop/122578214436546
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. Visualize Whirled Peas! |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
I'm sure there are tremendous advantages to this, but I can see this as being an easier way to produce crap, when in the wrong hands. Any tool that aids the artist, or craftsman, whether it is a pencil, a compass, a table saw, a can of paint, or a computer is only going to be as useful as the ability, skill, and artistic vision of the user. In the right hands, a true artist could make your emotions explode with delight by using the most minimum of things. In the wrong hands, it's like giving a tank to a child.
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3045 Posts |
Michael, that's beautifully put. Thank you. It's really humbling, when you think of it, what the Renaissance architects and sculptors could come up with, using little more than a sheet of paper and a charcoal stick. Maybe a straight edge.
And whatever they used for coffee.
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
www.georgefledo.net Latest column: "Sorry about the photos in my posts here" |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On 2010-05-08 00:23, George Ledo wrote: Still counting on that coffee one day!
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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edec New user 23 Posts |
Look what I found !
A guy building his own mirror box : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raiFzWTyEKU&NR=1 ;-) |
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3045 Posts |
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On 2010-05-08 02:53, Michael Baker wrote: Me too!
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
www.georgefledo.net Latest column: "Sorry about the photos in my posts here" |
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Howard Hamburg New user 94 Posts |
The guy jarrett book is inexpensive and will get you to thinking like him.you must think like a movie special effects man.there are no rules.if a piece of tape or rubber band works better than a spring or hinge but must be replaced each time then use it instead.relaibility and performer comfort are the most important factors.ali bongo said that great satisfaction comes from using props you have made yourself.plus,there are no slip-ups bcoz you understand the prop completly.i have found that making 3 of a given thing results in the final one being streamlined to optimo specs.then you can sell the first 2 to other magi friends and recoup your total costs.it's a business.
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