To Pete Koloz....Yes, I'm in Ocala, will be in Gibtown after Jan.1....Call me if you want...Lee has my#

Without sounding like a wiseguy...The Best opinion you can get on your Banners...Is Flying them, If they sell tickets,They are Winners, If they don't, Sell em on Ebay...Jim Hand painted the most profitable Banner I have currently...Yet a collector would most likely have No interest in it...

I think you're wrong on that Jim. Who wouldn't want to have a BIG DICK banner hanging in the family room ?

BUT you're right...if the banner doesn't sell tickets there is no reason to drag them down the road.

[quote]On 2011-11-28 09:04, thegreatnippulini wrote: Unless Jim Hand is a teacherTGN
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As a matter of fact I AM A TEACHER....I have taught THOUSANDS of people if they don't read a banner VERY closely they might be disappointed.

I can also teach anyone how to go broke in 6 weeks OR LESS operating a circus. I've done it a couple times and consider myself an EXPERT at losing a lot of money in a short period of time.

No, you're not sounding like a wiseguy... maybe another 2 syllable word that's not allowed here. Jim (Z), I majored in graphic design at BCCC, in addition to 4 years in high school on scholarship at Moore College of art. I painted banners for my shows, not primarily for sale. I displayed my own banner (Nippulini) at WOW, Philly Fringe Festival ('01-'06), Todd Robbins Sideshow Sturday Nights, pretty much every gig I worked. They are currently mounted and displayed in galleries in the Philly area. Painted with acrylic on internal framed canvas, they have a rich history and jive with the "rules" of banner painting. You never saw them, so how could you offer an opinion? You know, I don't really remember asking YOUR opinion, I was asking Jim Hand for his opinion as an artist to another artist. Jim (Z) not everything is meant for the midway, even if it has roots there. Some of the BEST performers I've seen never flew a banner, but have their own banner with their own likeness and display it on STAGE for all to see when the crowd pays $15 to $30 a head to come in. Be prepared for another telephone call. I'd like to hash this out before you start doing an old Wendy's commercial.

Jim (Hand), seeing that you ARE a teacher, I will relish in calling you "Mr. Hand"... but when you read my words, please try to hear the stoner surfer sound of Sean Penn's voice saying it ("Mr. Haaaahnd").

[quote]On 2011-11-29 07:55, thegreatnippulini wrote:


No, you're not sounding like a wiseguy... maybe another 2 syllable word that's not allowed here. Jim (Z), I majored in graphic design at BCCC, in addition to 4 years in high school on scholarship at Moore College of art. I painted banners for my shows, not primarily for sale. I displayed my own banner (Nippulini) at WOW, Philly Fringe Festival ('01-'06), Todd Robbins Sideshow Sturday Nights, pretty much every gig I worked. They are currently mounted and displayed in galleries in the Philly area. Painted with acrylic on internal framed canvas, they have a rich history and jive with the "rules" of banner painting. You never saw them, so how could you offer an opinion? You know, I don't really remember asking YOUR opinion, I was asking Jim Hand for his opinion as an artist to another artist. Jim (Z) not everything is meant for the midway, even if it has roots there. Some of the BEST performers I've seen never flew a banner, but have their own banner with their own likeness and display it on STAGE for all to see when the crowd pays $15 to $30 a head to come in. Be prepared for another telephone call. I'd like to hash this out before you start doing an old Wendy's commercial.

Jim (Hand), seeing that you ARE a teacher, I will relish in calling you "Mr. Hand"... but when you read my words, please try to hear the stoner surfer sound of Sean Penn's voice saying it ("Mr. Haaaahnd").
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Hmm,
Your talking about Art...
My Bad...

P.S. call anytime, I'll be happy to School/Lecture you on the Difference/purpose of a Sidesow Banner versus Sideshow Art/(Banner)...$700 for the Coney version...$65 for the Magic shop version...Visa/M.C. accepted...
Oh, Looky here...I have a coupon, Lucky you!, its Free!..

To THE GREAT NIPPULINI.... When said I was a teacher I was just having fun....at 69 I've learned one important thing ...I don't really know anything...Everyone on the planet has the same goal..Find something to eat and someone to sleep with....It all boils down to THAT.

Everyone here may call me JIM or if they prefer MR.HAND. Either is fine with me. I've have been called a lot worse both to my face and behind my back.

I will be happy to give you my opinion about your artwork BUT you should be prepared. I am totally honest and can be quite blunt, if I like something ,I say so And if I don't ,I say that too. There are many people in showbuiness who don't like me BECAUSE I told them my opinion of their work. But always to their face. If you don't want the truth don't ask for it

WAIT ! There's MORE ! Concerning variety/stage performers who do sideshow TYPE acts and shows at clubs and whatever YOU ARE NOT REALLY SIDESHOW PERFORMERS you are just entertainers doing a sideshow type act in a club. To be a PROFESSIONAL sideshow person you need to make your entire living from being in the sideshow business. The mere fact you get paid (overpaid) doesn't make you a professional. If you have a day job, it means you have a second job. It still doesn't make you a professional.

If anyone on this forum THINKS they know more about the sideshow business than JIM Z...How sad. I feel sorry for you. I really do.

If you want to be THAT particular, according to original definitions, a Sideshow is a museum attached to a circus. The original sideshow was on a barge, towed behind a showboat. While the show was called a circus, it was more like what later became vaudeville. Carnivals didn't exist when sideshows were invented, so no carnival show is a sideshow. Also by that definition, a tented show isn't a sideshow.

The material was around before sideshows, and will be around after tents disappear from the face of the earth. I'm proud to be a VARIETY performer. As long as the check clears, I don't much care whether the venue is canvas or bricks (though I generally stay away from clubs). If some people call me "sideshow", I recognize it as a label that's convenient for them, because they lack other words.

It's so amusing how people develop specialized language for their little corners of the vocational world. Doctors do it...teachers, cooks, lawyers, ad men, psychologists...you name a job, they have specialized language. It just gives epidermal erythema to my gluteus maximus.

You beat me to it Harley,,,just looked up where Sideshow originated over here and it was long before you got it over there hahaha.

I travel my own show March-December full time no other income,,,then grab whatever work I can get January - March....so what does that make me >>>> (Other than knackered !!!).

Ken.

There have been variety shows and single-Os for a loooooong time. A great resource is "Theatre of Marvels" by Marian Hannah Winter. She's researching the roots of ballet, and it intertwines with sideshow and wire-walking for a few hundred years. The book has an incredible amount of reproduced bills, dating waaay back. The dialog isn't the best.

The first American sideshow I've found mention of, was put on by Dr. Gilbert Spaulding, in conjunction with one of his other innovations, the first showboat...early 1850s.

Occasionally people mention one in 1844. I've never heard a source.

"Theatre of Marvels" deals mostly with material from England. There were flourishing shows in every major capital...Paris, Vienna, etc.

I love you guys.

Try a little Udder Balm.



Suppose your playing Philly Park someday and your stakedriver is on the fritz.
Or you need a ride to the laundromat, or a hot shower...
Geez, quit 'ranguin' up the green help!

Nips why are you such a angry person?????????

WOW !!! I guess you guys didn't think I would speak my mind that quick. It has only been 4 days. Is that a record ?

In my comment about Jim Z., I was referring to his SKILL as a SHOWMAN in building a first-class midway attraction
in a very few years. He didn't have a rich momma or a lot of money. He did it the old fashioned way. HARD WORK.

I am very sorry if I offened anyone, BUT Nippulinni has a nippy attitude and I thought HE was being very RUDE to Jim Z.

I think it makes you a HARD WORKING showman who is willing to do other work to get through the winter. There is no shame in that.Why spend the summer's winnings? I wish YOU conintued success.

Here's something happy:



I love drunken elephant!

Thanks. Critter. Cute picture.