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Great
thanks. (As someone who performs the ACAAN all the time, I can tell you that the first thing lay people think is that there are duplicates in the deck, and they do pick up the deck and look through it).

Can you put a video on here of you performing yours please, Uncut?

Thanks so much

BD
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On Mar 30, 2024, Bottom Drawer wrote:
Great
thanks. (As someone who performs the ACAAN all the time, I can tell you that the first thing lay people think is that there are duplicates in the deck, and they do pick up the deck and look through it).

Can you put a video on here of you performing yours please, Uncut?

Thanks so much

BD


Sorry but I am not on this thread to talk about myself, and I do not intend to hijack or derail this thread. I sent you a pm.

My intentions here are to learn more about this product - Iceberg.

I am a magic reviewer and as such I like to learn what I can about magic products that are for sale.

I am still waiting to hear the answers to my questions.
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The trailer doesn’t really show how the app is actually used - it just shows the end result, which we all know. I’m guessing the app will simply tell you where to cut the deck, and seems that the Apple Watch is the go-to Peek method?

I would just like to know

How the phone is used to disguise the input method(s)?

How many peek options are there?

I just want to assess how practical this will be for a working magician please?
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It's not rocket science, If this is a world-beater put the complete video up and sales will go mad or bomb.

Simples

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It's not rocket science, If this is a world-beater put the complete video up and sales will go mad or bomb.

Simples

BD


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I trust UnbiasedMagicReviews and follow his youtube channel for honest reviews. None of the reviews and recommendations were off the mark for me. I am sure he would end up buying this app and do a full review.
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I trust UnbiasedMagicReviews and follow his youtube channel for honest reviews. None of the reviews and recommendations were off the mark for me. I am sure he would end up buying this app and do a full review.


I hope he does Sir, make a great viewing especially as he sells his version.

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Since I started doing ACAAN, my biggest problem was the difficulty of doing the math. I know for many of you this may sound like a joke, but for me it was quite complicated. I tried several methods; there was something really clever that I put behind the phone case, it was pretty cool, but there wasn't any good justification for staring at my phone for several minutes haha.

So, after that, I bought the "Card Stats" app from the late Max Krause. Then, I also bought "RACAAN" from Greg Rostami and used it with some project from Gui Del Frate's "TAP", the problem with the latter is that the prediction was so strong that afterwards, when I finished the ACAAN in the real world, it was weaker than the prediction from the photo. Anyway, among other methods that I don't remember.

So, Shameer released the ICEBERG app. I saw the trailer and thought the inputs were incredible, but I didn't like the ACAAN. I kept bothering Shameer until he made it for Asi Wind's ACAAN, which is what I use. After a lot of nagging, he gave in. I'm not sure if I was responsible for him giving in, or if several other users also convinced him, but at least I helped influence him haha.

So, there are several great inputs, but what I liked the most was in this order:

1) Safari: something that fakes Google, and then you can search for "random number generator", and then generate numbers. And while doing this, he really has free choice to decide which number he wants.

2) Notepad: it's very simple and quite functional, you just write the card and the number and do a peek from where you should cut so that it stays in the correct order.

3) Camera: It's what appears in the trailer, I thought it was pretty cool, but I didn't find a good justification for it, maybe something like: I'm going to record you saying the card and the number to have as proof later, anyway I'm sure you guys will come up with a better justification haha.

And there's one more that might come out and I'm probably not authorized to say, but I'll tell you it's the best thing possible.

I really couldn't recommend this app more if you do ACAAN and have some kind of dyscalculia like me haha.
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I have been testing the new PRO mode for ICEBERG and I think you guys will like the new stuff he's been adding. Asi's ACAAN has also been added along with other ways to input without touching the phones. I hope he shares the news soon. It's a huge add-on.
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I have been testing the new PRO mode for ICEBERG and I think you guys will like the new stuff he's been adding. Asi's ACAAN has also been added along with other ways to input without touching the phones. I hope he shares the news soon. It's a huge add-on.


Great news thanks.

I’m in now. Lots have ripped off Asi’s this add on will be great.

BD
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I have been testing the new PRO mode for ICEBERG and I think you guys will like the new stuff he's been adding. Asi's ACAAN has also been added along with other ways to input without touching the phones. I hope he shares the news soon. It's a huge add-on.


Great news thanks.

I’m in now. Lots have ripped off Asi’s this add on will be great.

BD


Iceberg was initially catered to do a really clean ACAAN with no(minimal) sleights involved. Like G said before, Iceberg is based on Barry Richardson/Mitchell Kettlewell's method. (I call it half&half)


I have added a new mode - CUT which is different from the half & half mode. The deck is stacked in your favorite stack and the user is given an absolute free choice of a card and any number from 1-52 (without any restrictions), and the app calculates and tells you which card(and number of cards) to cut to.

The app only tells you which card to cut to (like mentioned in the Mnemonica Book) and Asi's handling is NOT taught within the project.
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Thanks for this update Shameer.
Lots butcher the Asi technique, so yours is probably the best bet.

BD
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Sounds exactly like Racaan by Greg Rostami which is brilliant by the way.
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Sounds exactly like Racaan by Greg Rostami which is brilliant by the way.



Your right. I have that app it’s great. Why would I need this new one.

BD
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Sounds exactly like Racaan by Greg Rostami which is brilliant by the way.



Your right. I have that app it’s great. Why would I need this new one.

BD


I don't have Racaan and can only speak about Iceberg. You have a variety of inputs to choose from and many ways to peek as well.
Iceberg lets you do the easy ACAAN (Icecold) and also the typical Mnemonica based ACAAN and Asi's ACAAN where some sleight is needed.
Notes Input is kind of hands free where spectator does all the work. You can peek within the app, on your apple watch etc.
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Sounds exactly like Racaan by Greg Rostami which is brilliant by the way.



Your right. I have that app it’s great. Why would I need this new one.

BD


I don't have Racaan and can only speak about Iceberg. You have a variety of inputs to choose from and many ways to peek as well.
Iceberg lets you do the easy ACAAN (Icecold) and also the typical Mnemonica based ACAAN and Asi's ACAAN where some sleight is needed.
Notes Input is kind of hands free where spectator does all the work. You can peek within the app, on your apple watch etc.




Just to be clear this helps with the calculation for Asi's version?

Thanks
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Sounds exactly like Racaan by Greg Rostami which is brilliant by the way.



Your right. I have that app it’s great. Why would I need this new one.

BD


I don't have Racaan and can only speak about Iceberg. You have a variety of inputs to choose from and many ways to peek as well.
Iceberg lets you do the easy ACAAN (Icecold) and also the typical Mnemonica based ACAAN and Asi's ACAAN where some sleight is needed.
Notes Input is kind of hands free where spectator does all the work. You can peek within the app, on your apple watch etc.




Just to be clear this helps with the calculation for Asi's version?

Thanks


Yes it does.
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Hey friends,

I made a quick review and walkthrough for the Iceberg App Smile

https://youtu.be/-Hez9XhBJFg?si=wqlLvLy9Nqd_UI2F

Let me know if I can help answer any questions!

-Jake
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Hey friends,

I made a quick review and walkthrough for the Iceberg App Smile

https://youtu.be/-Hez9XhBJFg?si=wqlLvLy9Nqd_UI2F

Let me know if I can help answer any questions!

-Jake



Thank you Jake!!
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My pleasure sir!!

It was really cool to be a part of this with you. Definitely loving the steady improvements and features you’re adding in!

-Jake