On Jul 6, 2023, michaelmystic2003 wrote:

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On Jul 6, 2023, 1tepa1 wrote:
It does look good. But I think the strenght of the animated deck or haunted pack is that it does not look like it uses thread, the method is more hidden. Especially those versions where the deck moves forward and then back again leaving one card sticking out. The animation and the way the deck moves does not scream "invisible thread". But with this, when the deck floats up in a straight line to your hand, it does scream "thread". Everyone has seen for example how spiderman can shoot a thread to an object and then retract that thread back causing the object to come back to his hand. When a spectator sees the deck float up, it is certainly shocking and you will get great reactions, but how many spectators will walk away afterwards really thinking that an invisible thread was NOT used to make the object shoot into your hand?

I think there are a few good convincers here:

1. In the long-form demo, Joao visually dispels the presence of a line before the float upwards

2. As the deck arrives at your hand, you could continue journeying up and even a bit above your head with it in your hand. If the motion of the deck in flight is consistent, this would (I think?) sell the visual impression that the deck actually flies a fair bit higher than it actually does and might also help erase the idea of a thread.

On Jul 6, 2023, 1tepa1 wrote:
When I was a kid, maybe 10 years old, I saw a magic show in a local theater with well known and respected preformers from the magic community. This was before I was into magic. One of the performers did the dancing cane. The way the cane moves has all kinds of convincers that dispel the notion of how a layperson could understand how a thread can be used to float something. The cane goes around the body of the performer, between the hands and all of that, seemingly making it impossible that a thread can be connected to it from above. Yet I had zero doubt that a thread was somehow being used, despite not being able to conceive how. It was visually very cool, but there was no sense of mystery in a magical sense to it. I did not care to know how it was done, because I knew it was done with a thread somehow. contrasting this with other tricks I saw where I had no idea how it was done. With those tricks I really wanted to know how they were done and had a feeling of magic because I truly had no idea about how it could have been done.

On Jul 6, 2023, 1tepa1 wrote:
Juha-Matti. I think the spectators want to see the deck because they know there must be something extra in play. A deck does not just cut itself. Maybe they think there is a thread in use but it could also be they think the deck itself is somehow mechanically gimmicked with some type of a moving mechanism that cuts it. I remember when I first saw the haunted deck and I thought the deck was in itself gimmicked in some way that it can cut itself.

On Jul 6, 2023, michaelmystic2003 wrote:

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On Jul 6, 2023, 1tepa1 wrote:
Juha-Matti. I think the spectators want to see the deck because they know there must be something extra in play. A deck does not just cut itself. Maybe they think there is a thread in use but it could also be they think the deck itself is somehow mechanically gimmicked with some type of a moving mechanism that cuts it. I remember when I first saw the haunted deck and I thought the deck was in itself gimmicked in some way that it can cut itself.

Given that this piece feels to me like a closer, I can see a lot of magicians using a matching regular deck for previous effects and then ringing in Leviosa for the finale. Since the deck has presumably been in play the whole time, surely this would help squash those suspicions?

On Jul 7, 2023, 1tepa1 wrote:

I think the spectators want to see the deck because they know there must be something extra in play. A deck does not just cut itself. Maybe they think there is a thread in use but it could also be they think the deck itself is somehow mechanically gimmicked with some type of a moving mechanism that cuts it. I remember when I first saw the haunted deck and I thought the deck was in itself gimmicked in some way that it can cut itself.

On Jul 7, 2023, LeoTheJet wrote:
Many IT tricks are obvious. I’ve only found a few that work for me. A “bouncing” dollar bill makes me feel more embarrassed than magical.

This looks magical. From being shuffled. To splitting across the floor, to floating up to your waiting hand. I’m sorry, but I don’t think thread would be any layman’s first thought.

On Jul 7, 2023, rowland wrote:

I don’t think you will be shuffling this deck lol.

On Jul 6, 2023, michaelmystic2003 wrote:
The visual on this is just incredible, and I love the idea of a self contained IT effect that doesn't require any awkward get-ready or get-out. I normally hate IT tricks, but I would do this.

However, I'm curious about the "instant reset" aspect of this as it seems clear from the full performances that something from the deck is ditched after the selection is made. Does whatever is ditched have to be reintroduced to the deck at the end of the effect? And if so, how does that qualify as an instant reset in the way that is advertised (ie: the deck is boxed and pocketed, and you're back in business)?

On Jul 7, 2023, Jbond207 wrote:

Too me, that sounds like nothing is attached to your body