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On Jun 19, 2022, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
I'm convinced people who hit the wrong cup in smash & stab would not call that experience similar. ;-)


I’ve had shows where a failed smash & stab would have been preferred
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On Jun 18, 2022, John C wrote:
So I suppose 1 on 1 is out of the question?

Does this require quick thinking? I mean is it easy to screw up?


While the routine (obviously) won't work for one person, my method of forcing the correct outcome can be done for one person.

I'm not sure what is meant by "quick thinking" but you will need to perform an action based on someone's choice.

No, it's not easy to screw up.
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Hello, I read in previous comments that the coin is not gimmicked, just the envelope.
I would like to ask if once I have purchased the effect I can replace the coin with my own personalized one (size 2 italian euro, always double-sided) and use only the envelope provided. That is, the moves to be made can be performed with another slightly larger coin (I think). Thanks to who will answer me.
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Bigger isn't better in this case. You say the chip provided isn't gimmicked but it's designed in such a way to facilitate the necessary.
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On Jun 20, 2022, Khalid wrote:
Bigger isn't better in this case. You say the chip provided isn't gimmicked but it's designed in such a way to facilitate the necessary.


I don't think the size of the euro is much more than the chip provided, but if you tell me that it was designed on purpose to do the manipulation then I don't think it can use another type of currency and I would regret that. Has anyone tried?
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Hi Chiassai,

It is not gimmicked in the true sense but I designed it for easy visibility. This not only helps the routine by not needing someone on stage to verify the toss but also setting up the move. It would be the same as a marked deck of cards: where one can be easily seen from a few feet away with just a quick glance and another needs to be looked at from a pretty close distance. While I haven't performed Down to One with a regular coin, I've done the move with no problem.
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Perfect thank you very much.
I think I will buy it because I really like the routine and I hope to be able to use a coin modified by me without problems
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Could I ask one of you to explain what I'd be getting for my $75? An ungimmicked coin? A gimmicked envelope? Jon Allen's scripted routine? A technique for manipulating the coin? I can't complain about the price because it's so darn hard to figure out what I'm paying for. Thanks.
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You are getting a professional routine that can be performed in many different environments by either magician or mentalist. You are getting Jon Allen's personal time developing the routine. You are getting an ungimmicked coin, a gimmicked envelope, a scripted routine, a technique for manipulating the coin, and much more.

If you like the effect and want to perform it, then buy it. It shouldn't matter what components make it up because you're buying the complete end to end routine. If you don't like the effect, then don't buy it and the components won't matter.

If you have questions about the actual effect or what it looks like to the audience then ask away, but perhaps stop fishing for the method.
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On Jun 23, 2022, Daegs wrote:
You are getting a professional routine that can be performed in many different environments by either magician or mentalist. You are getting Jon Allen's personal time developing the routine. You are getting an ungimmicked coin, a gimmicked envelope, a scripted routine, a technique for manipulating the coin, and much more.

If you like the effect and want to perform it, then buy it. It shouldn't matter what components make it up because you're buying the complete end to end routine. If you don't like the effect, then don't buy it and the components won't matter.

If you have questions about the actual effect or what it looks like to the audience then ask away, but perhaps stop fishing for the method.


Agreed.
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On Jun 19, 2022, 252life wrote:
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On Jun 19, 2022, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
I'm convinced people who hit the wrong cup in smash & stab would not call that experience similar. ;-)


I’ve had shows where a failed smash & stab would have been preferred


By you or by the audience? ;-)
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On Jun 19, 2022, 252life wrote:
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On Jun 19, 2022, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
I'm convinced people who hit the wrong cup in smash & stab would not call that experience similar. ;-)


I’ve had shows where a failed smash & stab would have been preferred


By you or by the audience? ;-)


Sigh. Both 😂 Reminds me of that show on a private jet. People ran for the doors mid flight 😆

Impeccable timing as usual lol. I just received Down21 and it’s exactly as described and I’m happy Smile
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My full review can be found in Field and Stream, GQ, and Woodworkers Monthly...


I left mine in Guns & Ammo...
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My full review can be found in Field and Stream, GQ, and Woodworkers Monthly...


I left mine in Guns & Ammo...



Touché Smile well played. And that would be my first choice for reading material 🙂
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I wonder what Wes thinks of this.
If I were Wes (I'm not) I would feel ripped off.
The two routines look the same to an audience.
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I wonder what Wes thinks of this.
If I were Wes (I'm not) I would feel ripped off.
The two routines look the same to an audience.


A lot of things look the same to an audience. If I were Wes (I’m not), I’d speak for myself, and hope that randoms on the Café didn’t try to create drama where there is none.
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Exactly. 5 posts in and talking s^%#? No way. Go stir some other pot.
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That's an S, not a 5. At the time of this post I have 40 posts over 1 year of membership here. Before that I lurked here for over 5 years.
I'm not trying to make waves. It's just a post on a forum.
So don't cry like fragile darlings. Nobody cares what an old hobbyist thinks.
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Welp, you told us! I wonder if Unmasked will be as surprised as I am, that we don’t do this for a living anymore. I hope he pulls through from the shock Smile Anyway, please recommend your favorite Rick Lax illusion for us.
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Haha! That made my day, 252!

(I WILL have a hard time adjusting to my new status. But I trust in Trebeseer to guide the way. Although I have great difficulty in understanding how he seems to be very sensitive on Wes' behalf and but condemns us to the status of fragile darlings. But he has over 40 posts, so... no worries!)
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