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garcia00 Elite user 443 Posts |
Although I have 30+ years exp., I have never learned the bill switch. I started last month, and have perfected it with one exception. That is the reinsertion of the bill into the gimmick, under the cover of the 3rd unfold, and the handling of the gimmick thereafter until it is in its final destination. The inverse trip of the gimmick is perfect, which makes this part so noticable and I am not making progress. Not sure if it is the position of the gimmick, how it is moved/held during each fold, or something else.
Hope this is not exposure, I don't see how it could be. If you fear exposure, please PM with any help. Thanks. |
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts |
I will PM you as I am not sure how my response would be taken.
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
Check out the switch book? or do you have that? it has many many swiches in great detail
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Salby Inner circle New Jersey 1262 Posts |
Michael Ammar's CLASSIC RENDITIONS DVD (I forgot which volume) is the best (IMO) video for this effect that I have been doing for over 15 years.
You know how to make God laugh?........... Tell him your plans!!!
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5958 Posts |
It's actually much easier without a gimmick. There are a number of commercial handlings - I'm sure that The Switch Book has a few.
There's also a good, gimmickless handling in Jarle Leirpoll's Pocket Power. |
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Bob Johnston Inner circle Philadelphia, PA 1251 Posts |
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On 2006-12-16 07:17, Alan Munro wrote: It is highly a mater of opinion, many people think a TT is better. Bob |
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THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) Inner circle Minnesota, USA 2379 Posts |
A bill switch with a TT means more stuff to hide. It is way easier without one.
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FredrikS New user 58 Posts |
Is a mater of taste.. I can highly recommend THE SWITCH, their you can toy around with handling's of both with or without a tt. Plus you will get many good routine´s
All the best! Fredrik
"Fly me to the moon"
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Bob Johnston Inner circle Philadelphia, PA 1251 Posts |
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On 2007-06-17 23:29, THEGUY26 wrote: I have no problem with you thinking bare handed is better FOR YOU, but to say "It is way easier without one" is narrow minded. I have used (and demonstrated in a magic shop) both for many years, and for many people the TT is better FOR THEM. I am able to show both my hands open as I start the fold down. FOR ME that outweighs the small inconvenience of dropping a TT in my pocket as they are examining the bill. This is hardly my biggest worry about ditching things. Bob |
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Simon Bakker Special user the Netherlands 587 Posts |
I'm totally with bob on this one. No matter how smooth your switch is or how good your presentational skills are; some people will always look for a second bill. This is exactly why some magicians stay away from the bill switch.
The gimmick works very disariming for these kind of people. You can show your hands cleanly and empty in a very subtle, convincing way. @ Garcia00: I think this is a proble that we all have. I must admit I haven't seen a magician that does this very naturally. Even 'big guys'like Jay Sankey and Ammar. This is another reason why some people stay clear of the koslowski bill switch. In mine opinion it's a flaw in the handling. |
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THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) Inner circle Minnesota, USA 2379 Posts |
I think it would be easier for someone new to the bill switch.
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9500 Posts |
If you decide to use a TT, make sure it's slipery. The Japanese model is great for silk work but you'll need one that allows paper to slide along the surface.
I took the wrong style to a show last week and became stuck at the critical moment because the TT was the wrong composition of material. However, I like the TT better then the no TT method because I have a little coin pocket inside my pants pocket which keeps the parts exactly where I can get to them in an orderly mannor. One last point, color should have NO efect on the performance. If you use it correctly it could be green with white rhine stones attached. I have even used a dye tube when someone requested to see the trick and had not planed to present the it that day.
Jay Leslie
www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com |
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THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) Inner circle Minnesota, USA 2379 Posts |
Just get the Vernet Classic Thumb Tip. That is the standard for bill switches.
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magicdoctor Veteran user Wi. 377 Posts |
The Vernet Thumb Tip works the best for me. The bill switch is one of my staples of close up magic.I never leave home without it.and have been able to escape from being busted.I don't have a problem hiding or ditching the tip. I take the borrowed bill and ask who gave me this bill? and at that time one hand goes in one pocket and the other in the other pocket, I drop the bill in one and the tip in the other.,everybody laughs and then I give the bill back to it's owner. Just my 2cents
Michael Von Schroeder [url]www.vonmagic.com[/url]
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THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) Inner circle Minnesota, USA 2379 Posts |
Another reson I don't like the Thumb Tip, is because I would have less pocket space. The bill "change" I use is the Juan Bill Switch. That one is also in The Switch Book.
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CaptRitz New user 54 Posts |
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On 2007-06-23 21:21, magicdoctor wrote: I like that one... It's a natural/ |
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Brent McLeod Inner circle 1795 Posts |
I use a slippery plastic TT, made in Germany by a contact-not Vernet-not smooth enough but I have used them
On the third fold the TT is slid into the right hand-all part of the natural movement of the fold On the third move unfolding the bill the TT is slid back into LH-easy & smooth I also lick my right thumb so you can have a better grip on the paper etc before I start-helps a lot!!, I change a blank piece of paper to a $20 Bill-I have many precut to the same size & the effect of a blank piece changing to a green coloured bill is visually strong & gets a great reaction I have used this for many years in close up & street performances surrounded & never had a problem ditching the tip-just don't do it straight away-theres no need! as mentioned in many above posts-If you are comfortable with a method & any gimmick that you use-this effect is so strong for lay audience I must perform this casually 8-10 times a week in shops etc-& have booked many shows soley through this effect being shown to someone!!! Cheers
Professional Corporate Magician
http://brentmcleodmagic.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pt3US6wKpY&list=LL&index=3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vToeLymxmTA |
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OHCollector Regular user 132 Posts |
Classic Renditions Volume 3 is said to be the best resource for the TT bill switch. Ammar's site has the lowest price I've seen for it and I just ordered mine last week. I really need to improve my horrible handling for Mismade Bill.
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John Long Inner circle New Jersey 2826 Posts |
I also have trouble using a TT, my skin is dry, and I get no traction.
Brent: is there an online store that sells these slippery TTs?
Breathtaking Magic;
Not Breath Taking |
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TheAstonishingLarry Regular user I aspire to more than only 183 Posts |
In response to the original question, I believe that Ammar's variation of the standard fold will solve your problem. I too am finally getting around to learning the switch and came across MA's handling in his book, "The Magic of Michael Ammar." It's one of those solutions that'll have you thinking, "Now why didn't I think of that?"
"If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." - Carl Sagan
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