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The_MetalMaster Veteran user Indiana 331 Posts 
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I Performed Par Optic Vision last night with the Aronson Stack. The first time I performed it, it absolutely killed. People were looking all over for mirrors I could've been looking at. However, the next time I perfirmed it, the deck was cut to AD, 7S and 5s. I had to do some serious fishing this time and missed on 5s and 7s. Has anybody else performed this classic effect with Simons stack? If so, how will you go about fishing when there are similar suits in the 3 cards chosen? I performed Bob Cassidys version where I have the helper cut the deck behind my back.
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stickmondoo Veteran user 306 Posts
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Which one of you is thinking of a seven? It's impressive that you know some one is then when they say which one you can divine the colour and suit.
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stickmondoo Veteran user 306 Posts
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I don't know Par optic vision. Was just assuming it's similar to something I do with Mnemonica. If what I said made no sense, sorry. Richard Osterlind has loads of nice touches wih his Radar Deck that can be adapted. I show first person first 5 cards of stack. Second person next five cards (so you all think of a different card) then third person next five cards, then put the cards away and use Richards fishing methods for the radar deck. Very clean mind reading. Can freak people out if you get a bit of luck and hit all your fishes ü
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The_MetalMaster Veteran user Indiana 331 Posts
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I really like how Richard's Radar deck looked on his Mind Mysteries DVD, and also interested in checking out his Dynamo Deck for Par Optic Vision. I just don't want to memorize another deck. If you have Practical Mental Effects, Par Optic is in there in the Blindfold Mysteries chapter. In Par Optic, the 3 cards are put into the helpers pocket and the same spectator takes out one card at a time while your back is turned/blindfolded. You tell them exactly what card it is they take out of their pocket, one by one.
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stickmondoo Veteran user 306 Posts
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That's an amazing effect but I see you can't do the fishing I suggested. Sorry about that. If you really like performing that effect how about having another deck in si stebbins or eight kings ready to go. You will always have different suits. Not the best solution but can't think of another off the top of my head.
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The_MetalMaster Veteran user Indiana 331 Posts
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I practiced it last night with it in Si Stebbens but that stack is so awkward to use after you have a stack memorized cold like I do with Aronson stack. The effect is def worth the practice. I've considered even learning Osterlind's Breakthrough system since I know he always performs the effect.
This effect stirred up quite a crowd around me Friday night and I was quite impressed with the attention so you can see how it's def worth the practice |
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Claudio Inner circle Europe 1954 Posts
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When I used to do this effect I knew in which order the cards went into the pocket: it is important if you want to limit the fishing to a strict minimum.
Anyway the fishing between the two spades (or any two cards of the same suit) could go like this, for example: It's a black card, isn't it? Yes It's a Spades. Yes The value is odd, right? -- Useless info, but it's a hit; it could have helped if the values were odd/even Yes And the value spells with an 'S'? Yes -> seven No -> five If you don't like the last piece of fishing, you could face the spec, making sure the card face is not visible and say "It's a five ...", watch his reaction and either confirm or jump to "No, it's not, it's the seven of spades". |
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1408 Posts
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When doing 3-card fishing, I turn it around and have them mentally send the cards to me.
Any errors are because it's a new process for them, and it's not easy. They eventually succeed. |
Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5935 Posts
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Using the Arosnon set up shouldn't you know all three cards? Simon has some thought expanding devious ideas about how to use any stacked deck in his ebook Memories are Made of This. It can be gotten for free here from Vanishing Inc.
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The_MetalMaster Veteran user Indiana 331 Posts
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On May 27, 2015, Tom Cutts wrote: oh yes. that's the easy part. in par optic vision, the spectator can take out any 1 of the 3 cards out of his pocket so there could be a little fishing to figure out which one. I've fixed the problem though and perform this all the time with the Aronson stack. Its quite the killer! |
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Claudio Inner circle Europe 1954 Posts
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On May 27, 2015, The_MetalMaster wrote: If you do not mind sharing, what is your solution to this? |
nspikito Elite user 413 Posts
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If you do not mind sharing, what is your solution to this? I do what Richard Osterlind does. I have the spectator put each card into a different pocket in the order I specify. No ambiguity! Spike |
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The_MetalMaster Veteran user Indiana 331 Posts
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I have them put into the same pocket and then just follow the original Annemann instructions
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Francois Lagrange Veteran user Paris, France 384 Posts
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You originally had a problem with fishing between two cards of the same suit. Is that the problem you've now solved?
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Posted: Mar 28, 2015 11:25 pm 