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dlachance Veteran user Mississippi 344 Posts 
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Quick question. What is the difference in a magnetic flipper and a gravity flipper. IS the gravity flipper the one that has the band.
I ask because I have a flipper held with a band that just falls into position. I had recently seen a coins across in the specs hand that uses a flipper. The flipper is actually placed on the specs hand open. They lightly toss into air and the deal is done. However, I can not do this with my flipper. The pressure from the band makes it pop up like a tent. Will a magnetic flipper lay flat without help to pin it down? Thanks, Dorian
-Dorian LaChance
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Pete McEwen Special user Durham, N.C. 576 Posts
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Hey Dorian,
You're looking at the difference in a traditional flipper and a gravity flipper. A gravity flipper will lie flat on a hand or table while a traditional flipper will not. Also, a magnetic flipper can be either one if I'm not mistaken. Dan Watkins has an article on it, I don't have the link... Pete
The magician formerly known as SPEEDcuber
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larrylegal Regular user Raleigh, NC 138 Posts
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I do not own a gravity flipper, just a traditional, so I was wondering what prevents the gravity flipper from just opening when you do not want it to? If there isn't the same tension from bands like the regular flipper, what keeps it closed?
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Benjamin Dove New user Los Angeles, California 56 Posts
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I want to get a flipper. Its quite useful for coin tricks, right?
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mitchmarkl New user 77 Posts
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On 2009-03-06 12:51, dlachance wrote: |
narcoleptic_insomniac Regular user Kenosha, WI 140 Posts
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On 2009-03-06 12:51, dlachance wrote: Before I obtained my gravity flipper(s), I was having this same problem with my traditional flipper. One simple way to work around this "tent effect" (if the routine is in your hands), is to keep the flipper open by holding the edges with your index and pinky finger (similar to a back palm, but with the 2nd and 3rd fingers beneath the open flipper). A better solution, however, is to just use a bigger, pre-stretched band. Make sure you're using the correct sized band, too. (My very first flipper was a clad Kennedy half from Tango, and they sent me quarter sized bands.) I've also heard of people making suitable bands from balloons, but I've never tried this. Although I don't really touch my traditional flipper anymore, once I installed a larger, pre-stretched band, it worked just as well as my gravity flipper. Hoping it Helped, Kyle Czarnecki |
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MacIrish Regular user 142 Posts
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Changing to a larger band may make your regular flipper into a gravity. I had this problem and was directed to an Orthodonist and get a larger "braces" rubberband. It really helped.
larrylegal The only thing that keeps a gravity together is your finger, otherwise it opens up which is the advantage of the gravity flipper. No "flicking" it open |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts
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Speaking rubber band, for frequent performers, when the rubber band breaks you are in trouble.
Thus I found it wiser to cut long thin balloons to rubber band shape with scissors and place three of them as a replacement to one single orthodontist rubber band.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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Ocha Loyal user 225 Posts
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You should read this thread:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=202&65 There is a lot of info here on this subject. Personally I'd say get a Johnson first and try it with the rubber bands mentioned in the above thread or as Lawrence O recommends try it with thee balloon bands. If you like the feel and the way it handles THEN I would suggest going to a more expensive Professional Gravity flipper. Best of luck to you, Gerald
I was Me but now He is gone.......
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larrylegal Regular user Raleigh, NC 138 Posts
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No flicking is an advantage, but isn't it a disadvantage that you can't handle the coin as freely as a traditional flipper such as tossing from hand to hand or on the table for fear of it opening? Or is this not an issue for anyone who uses gravity flippers?
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mitchmarkl New user 77 Posts
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On 2009-04-08 23:12, larrylegal wrote: My gravity Flipper closes when you toss it in the air, or from hand to hand. Gravity flippers still use a rubber band. They just don't have as much tension on them as a standard Flipper. They are easier to open, but still close on their own. I haven't tried coin through table, so I can't tell you whether that works or not. I would imagine that you might have to adapt your ctt for the gravity flipper, because you might want to toss it a little gentler and from a lower height. |
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ToHan Loyal user 286 Posts
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Hello.
Different flippers for different uses – my experience: The old type –fast locking – has its advance when you perform with the coins in your hands or want the spectator to handle it. The advances of the gravity is when you are sitting behind the table, you can slow down the routine as you can lay it open on the close up pad. There are no fast moves. Pick up the coin(s) and it’s closed and keep it in the bottom of the coin stack and you can open it whenever you want. This is my favorite and with classic palm you can perform miracles with this coin. I never toss this coin on the table as you can hear a sound from it. (Tension of the band) Magnetic flipper are mostly for “quick tricks” I think, coin thru effects. Torstein |
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mitchmarkl New user 77 Posts
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I agree Torstein.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts
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Torstein
I'm not sure I fully agree with all your analysis but I may be wrong. At any rate, you're making interesting points. I'll see how they apply to the performance of my routines in an attempt to improve on them further. Thanks for the idea of offering a different angle.
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Posted: Mar 6, 2009 05:51 pm 