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cloneman
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I know, I know, a DL question. But I did a search first and can’t find the answer.

On Penguin Magic’s site, the Color Monte handling in video demo differs a bit from the written instructions. One of the things that impressed me in the video demo was Oz's ability to turn over the top card (a DB). He gives the packet a little squeeze, and pulls off the DB diagonally. I've tried this, but can't seem to get the knack (partly because it is not simply a double. Those who know the trick know what I mean.)

Does anybody know where I can learn this handling? I believe it's one of the things that really sells the trick.

The video is here: http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=185
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You can learn that handling from.... wait for it... the PENGUIN DOWNLOAD!!!!

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Thanks. Silly me, I just read the instructions. Can you recommend books that teach variations like that? Card College?
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I know what you mean, cloneman. His move is different from the standard handling. I don`t know where this is taught, but obviously it is not that difficult. You need to practice, though. Keep it up, buddy. Smile
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Thanks. I'd love to find a good reference for pack trick moves.
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You mean a reference only for packet tricks? This is hard to find I would say.
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You're looking for Counts, Moves, and Subleties by Jerry Mentzer. It has all the counts and moves for packet tricks and other stuff. Its a green booklet of about 80pgs. Has a lot of useful info.
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Ideally I'd get something which references various DLs (as posted above), displays and counts (beyond Elmsley, Hammen, and Jordan). I'm considering buying Card College, based upon the recommendations here at the Café.
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Well, there you go, cloneman. Smile
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Thanks clamon86, you answered me before I posted. Great service!
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R. Paul Wilson has a great handling of this effect that is much cleaner.
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On 2006-04-11 16:58, cloneman wrote:
Thanks clamon86, you answered me before I posted. Great service!


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Probably OZ use what we called buckle move. with that you be able to get a br**k above the bottom card and now it's very easy to execute DL.
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On 2006-04-11 16:56, clamon86 wrote:
You're looking for Counts, Moves, and Subleties by Jerry Mentzer. It has all the counts and moves for packet tricks and other stuff. Its a green booklet of about 80pgs. Has a lot of useful info.


Cloneman, I second this book. Get it for sure. It dosen't describe the DL that you are talking about. But for packet tricks and counts etc. It's great. Hamman count, Elmsley count, Jordan count, Vesser count, Flustration count, Olram subtley, Ascanio spread, Buckle counts. And on and on.

And it shouldn't cost you more than 10 bucks shipped.

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On 2006-04-11 17:26, andrelimantara wrote:
Probably OZ use what we called buckle move. with that you be able to get a br**k above the bottom card and now it's very easy to execute DL.


Wrong! It is not the buckle move.
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I explained in a PM, but this is bascially Nash's knockout double done with the alignment move to allow it to be used from the bottom.
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Good information, Daegs. Didn`t know that.
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By watching Oz, I was able to reconstruct what he was doing. The problem I found with this D.L. move is it creates a small gap between the cards. I even noticed Oz flashed this as well.

I'd be interested in what R. Paul Wilson does, as I'm playing around with a similar routine called Two Wrongs don't make a Right.

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On 2006-04-11 19:05, RickVancouver wrote:
By watching Oz, I was able to reconstruct what he was doing. The problem I found with this D.L. move is it creates a small gap between the cards. I even noticed Oz flashed this as well.

Hmmmm, I've never found it a problem, maybe Oz spent all of ten minutes learning the handling before he shot the demo!

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Ideally I'd get something which references various DLs (as posted above), displays and counts (beyond Elmsley, Hammen, and Jordan). I'm considering buying Card College, based upon the recommendations here at the Café.
Definitely invest in C.C. but the ultimate reference for false counts/displays is this compilation http://www.themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin......m=BK4897
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