I saw this in one of Sankey's video.
Do any of you use this force?

I have, but it's kinda fancy for a force.




A.

No.

It is a kind of fun way to force a card when it doesn't matter that everyone can see the face of the card. It is also kind of a knacky force.

No... (Thanks for the tip, Bill...)

Best, PSC

Yes, I use this force and enjoy it. I only use it for my show though. I don't use it if someone says "show me a trick." I think it is not ideal for very very closeup. It looks ok, but not quite right. The only thing I don't like about it is that there are plenty of other forces where you say stop "wherever" you want. To the spectator, they all look the same, but in reality, with the whichita slip, it actually is a completely free stopping point. More of a force for magician's than laymen, but worth learning.
Dann

I like it but wouldn't use it exclusively.
The fact that the back of the force is hidden makes it a nice sleight and useful in some situations.

Jaz,
If you need to force a card without the back being seen use the standard riffle force to force the top card of the bottom half.

On Cultural Exchange 2 there's a very nice idea for having such a card signed in a way that seems very natural in context and it's designed for work in environments where people can't hear you speaking...(loud clubs, etc.)

Combine it with a side glide to quietly show the 'back' of the card and you have one heck of a strong tool.

Was this by chance created by one on the Stevens clan?

Wsduncan,

I'm not sure I'm understanding you when you say:
"If you need to force a card without the back being seen use the standard riffle force to force the top card of the bottom half."

I can see this working with the bottom card of the top half but not as you explain it.

I personally haven't gotten the hang of it. It is sick looking at his video seeing how fast and seemless he can do the move, as well as the pass. It's crazy. But I think it is a bit too much effort for forcing a card on someone.

Raise the entire top half (the 'stopped at' point) so the spectator can see the face of the card (but not the back.

As you lower the top half back to normal position you cna use the other hands fingers to perform a "side glide" action taking the second from the bottom (of the top half) card to so that you can outjog it, cut it into the middle of the botto half, etc. That allows the "back" to be seen before the change is revealed.

Hmmm... This is interesting.
Jaz, do you use this force for an effect where the back changes color or something to that effect. I had not thought of it before, but it might be a good idea.
Dann

Dann,
Wichita Slip, Sankey demonstrates with a hand written message.
Example:
Three cards would be forced.
One card reads, "You".
Second reads, "picked".
Third reads, "these."
It appears to be free choice, and the backs are apparently seen prior to their being turned face up.

Also if the deck is red backed, and the forces blue, it could be used as a sort of "Brainwave" effect where the selected card(s) are a different color.
I find the WS useful.
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Wsduncan,
Ok, I get it now. you originally wrote:
"riffle force to force the top[/b card of the [b]bottom half."
where it should have been:
"riffle force to force the bottom card of the top half."

Makes more sense this way.
Thanks.

Jaz,
Thanks for the info. That is clever. I learned the whichita slip from the very best of series as well as at his lecture. This is a new effect to me. I never even thought of the advantage that you don't see the back of the card (even though you think you do) Thanks again for the response.
Dann

I finally decided to start practicing this move, and I have to say, it's a lot of fun. I still haven't used it for anything, but I like playing with it. Who knows, eventually I may even "slip" it into a performance.

For some reason I just cannot do it. Too much work when there are easier methods to do the same thing.

I find it not easy to do the move.

I use it, but only in certain situations. I really like Sankey's Three Times Lucky effect. It's a great little impromptu stunner. It's the perfect context for the Wichita Slip - single or multiple bottom forces with a dribbled 'say stop' selection. But you can't repeat it too often, and you have to have the right body language. Make a big deal of the selection, saying that people can choose a different card if they want to, etc. Then do the move as you relax and exhale, on the offbeat.

Sankey's advice to buckle the bottom card is not something that I think is necessary, and I think it makes the move more difficult. Just use a light touch and you shouldn' have a problem with dealing out more than one card.

Again, it's not exactly a "workhorse" force. It's only good for special circumstances.

I just don't like the Wichata Slip. Doesn't look natural to me and certainly natural is something you want to strive for when forcing.

To force a card and not let the back be seen, use the one bannon uses in a few effects such as "Tattoo You", for instance.