Does anybody know what the components are in "juice" for marking cards?

I'd like to try and make some, yadda yadda yadda......but don't know what's in it.

Anybody know?

Grapes.

Thanks guys, that bandwidth can officially be considered wasted......I anticipated these types of answers, but then figured most on the Café would be above it.........good to see that's not true!

Cheers.

All in good fun my friend.

You've drifted above your paygrade.

Ha well it is possible to buy some and then deduce from there
you can use the solubility rules. if you know them

Learning is based on asking questions, and then having those questions answered by those who know the answers.

Well we are trying to tell you that you cannot make it!
The chance of finding someone who knows how to make good jucie it unlikely and its even more unlikely that they would want to share that with thousands of others

I'll bet you haven't even tried grapes yet.

Come on now....be positive....I can pretty much make anything I want to make.

It's called "learning"....something I never stop doing.

I've already had a couple of answers from a gambling board I'm on, and you know.....the grape juice comment is more truth than fiction.

I'm talking about making good juice not some crappy kind that you need glasses to see with

I've moved my search for juice over to Secret Sessions.

There are 3-4 formulas which work to make juiced cards and 2 of them have serious side effects and both sell in the $30-40 price range.

I paid dearly for the secrets to make real juice and unfortunately am not willing to disclose the formulas. I will tell you that using formulas which involve monitoring a "set time" usually have a problem with making inconsistant marks from card-to-card. More importantly, the marks will be visable because these solutions tend to easily damage the finish of the cards.

These cheap solutions are alcohol based. Try placing a drop of alcohol on a card and watch how it burns the finish. This is because US Playing Card Company changed their finish about 10+ years ago to make marking card's more difficult.

In addition, there is even a cheap knock off Juice marker/pen on the market which burn the finish off the cards. Stick to quality merchandise so you don't have this problem !

Like everything in life, you get what you pay for .... there are no free lunches.

On a more positive note: these cheap juice products are OK for unsophisicated audiences who don't bother looking at the cards for marks.

That is one man's opinion ... I hope this helps.

Although I suppose if one is dealing with unsophistaced audiences - why bother going to the trouble of using a juiced deck? Get a regular marked one... for that one spectator that tries to grab the deck and 'go to the movies' - well- how the heck did he grab the deck?!!?....

I figured a juice deck is great for gambling and fooling other magicians... I assume the need is for the latter?

Dr,

I never really had anyone grab the cards except when I was a kid.....As adults, they simply may ask if they can check the cards. If they do that, they will usually check for stripper first by rubbing their fingers along the side of the deck and sometimes even reversing a card.

Then they will to the gambler's riffle test.

I must just work for a tough crowd

But, I agree with you Dr. .... if you have an unsophisticated audience even magic marker dots may pass

Lords knows, I have seen people play cards which were bent, scratched and dirty. Who needs a marked deck when you can just notice obvious natural marks through wear and tear

Sal Piacente gives away the formula for juice in his new dvd.

I made some from the DVD. Much better than the stuff you buy at different internet shops.

2 questions about the juice:

Any trouble burning the finish ? (hold the card at an angle and reflect light, is their a dulling of the finish ?)

Do you have to worry about "set times " and making the marks too dark and/or damage the finish ?

When you said it is better than the internet stores.....if you compare to Ellusionist selling "the Juice" or "itsinthecards" I know why you think Sal's solution better.

But, have you compared it to http://www.cardsourcerer.com or http://www.marked-cards.com ? They have high quality products.

In case you are interested, http://www.marked-cards.com has a "Juice Dust" product which allows you make a juiced deck right in front of people using their deck without their knowledge. Far better than daubs because it is not a paste, makes real juice cards and cannot dull the finish of the cards.

Whats the name of the dvd?

"Poker Cheats Exposed"

http://salthehitman.com/Wanted.html