What do you all think of this?

http://www.doriangrey.ca/Dorian%20Grey/S......mes.html

This person is hosting a "something wicked this way comes" show which he touts as one of the most original and unique shows you are likely to see, when it's concept and ver batim title clearly is not origianl.

shameless?

Now that's just... can't find any words

I will sort out the burning torches, you check which way the monster is running!

I'll hitch up the horses and we can head him off at the pass, salsa.

OK:
I understand being concerned. How dare he use the title of the 1983 movie which is an adaptation of Ray Bradbury's 1962 novel, entitled after a Shakespearian quote from MacBeth?

Or are you upset because Derren Brown is using the same phrase as the title of his show? Although I agree that it is not the best thing to name your show the same as another performer's as it could cause confusion, but as MR. Brown performs in the UK, and Mr. Grey performs in Canada, there is small chance of that happening.

It is probably not the best thing to do, but there is nothing illegal with using s populsr phrase that's been around for at least 400 years. No real confusion will result from this either. Mr. Grey and Mr. Brown will not be confused with each other.

No, I don't condone copying the name of another's show, but in this case, the name is not original with either. Although I do think it is clever. I thought it was clever when they used it for the Harry Potter movie as well. Perhaps it is just a little overplayed right now. How can Mr.s Grey and Brown hope to compete with Mr. Potter. And What if he gets upset?

Tony

That's okay. salsa_dancer will say it for you.

I think it would be naive of any of you to suggest that the title is coincidental. Personally, I think it is wrong. I am very well aware of the heritage and provenance of the title.

I think use of another's title is asking for trouble...

just my opinion...

I do not think that Derren Brown was trying to ride the coattails of the movie Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. But as you say, it is suspicious. Less than a year seperates the common usage of that phrase.

Tony

But tony, do you think it's "right" to knowingly use the same branding as another performer, who performs in the same genre? I'm not sending lawyers - just asking if you think it is the right thing to do.

Of course it's not right...

IMHO

This show seems to be connected to the Student Union at the University of Toronto. It's billed as a charity show, tickets at $8. (Canadian). All proceeds go to charity, although no actual charity is named.

Perhaps he has spoken with Derren Brown to ask if he minds.

- entity

Then it would be ethical, right, and proper to state that permission has been sought, granted, and acknowledged. And it would be legally sound, too.

And what is the likelyhood that such an action has taken place?

I think the chances are slim.

Maybe derren took it from dorian?

;)

I should have thought of that, nice one jeff.

Very likely nothing malicious was intended...

After all it is a title...

"Trick of the mind"
"Theater of the mind"
"Dreams and Nightmares"
"Something wicked..."
etc...


all these titles have been used in the past...

If the content is the same, now that would be the real issue...

I sent him a couple of emails, but they were returned by the server (a technical thing of some sort, could be on my or his end). Also I can't find a telephone number anywhere.

I see no reason to make definate contact though, since I am just posing the discussion based on the work of another, as we all have done at one stage or other. I'm just interested to see what y'all think.

I would not do it myself.

But then again, was it ethical for Derren Brown to use it? It was a genious of a marketing move though. WB had just spent millions repopularizing the phrase on the posters for the movie.

In effect, WB repopularized it with Harry Potter in 2004, Derren Brown capitalized on the revitalized phrase and used it as the title for his 2005/6 show, Dorian Grey used it for his 2007 show.