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Ben Proudfoot Loyal user 212 Posts 
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Hello all,
I was studying a shift by Erdnase yesterday night and was trying to figure out what nationality "Erdnase" was. Maybe Scandinavian I thought. On closer examination of the name, S. W. Erdnase is E. S. Andrews backwards! Has this been found out before? Coincidence or Sobriquet? Who knows... Ben |
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1805 Posts
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This has been found out before, many times..
The effect is the important thing, how you achieve it is not.......
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Chris Bristow New user Warwick, Rhode Island 67 Posts
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Acutually his real name is Milton Franklin Andrews I belevie. This book may be of interst to you. http://www.illusionstore.com/product_inf......c35b388b
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xformer7 Veteran user Central NJ 309 Posts
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On 2005-07-15 09:21, bproud wrote: I will have to interrupt my research on the identity of Erdnase to uncover the definition of "sobriquet." So much to learn in this forum.... |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16557 Posts
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Nick name.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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Ben Proudfoot Loyal user 212 Posts
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Wow - that looks like a great book. It felt like uncovering a conspiracy when it dawned on me - Oh well.
Thanks, Ben PS - Sobriquet is nick name. PPS - Cool thing about the origin of nick name: first started as "an eek name". Like "eek out a living". Slowly, it turned into "A nick name". Cool eh? |
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Dave Forrest Special user Scotland 857 Posts
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On 2005-07-15 09:29, Chris Bristow wrote: I'm no expert on the matter but was under the impression that Milton Franklin Andrews is now widely refuted as the alter ego of Erdnase. I'm not saying your wrong Chris but I certainly have heard/read several times now of magic historians disregarding Milton Franklin Andrews as a possibility in regards to the real identity of Erdnase. Anyone (preferably someone who knows more than I do, which is, in fact, just about anyone) care to expand on this? Dave.
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JimMaloney Inner circle 1184 Posts
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You folks may be interested in this huge thread over at Genii about Erdnase:
http://geniimagazine.com/forum/cgi-bin/u......7#000000 -Jim
Books and Magazines for sale -- more than 200 items (Last updated January 17th, 2014. Link goes to public Google Doc.)
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27309 Posts
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On 2005-07-15 09:21, bproud wrote:...S. W. Erdnase is E. S. Andrews backwards! Has this been found out before? ... Folks have been looking for a gambler named Andrews for over fifty years, including Vernon.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Ben Proudfoot Loyal user 212 Posts
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That's so cool. I missing link in the world of magic...
Ben |
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T. Joseph O'Malley Inner circle Canada 1937 Posts
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Erdnase can be translated from German into a nonsense phrase, "earth nose".
I doubt it means anything, since it's generally been accepted as to how the author arrived at the name - the reverse spelling thing. By generally I mean by a bunch of obsessive magicians...
tjo'
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J Wessmiller Veteran user VA 306 Posts
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Check out the thread JimMaloney posted on the Genii forums, it's a GREAT read. If it was only available as a manuscript, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
be well, JW |
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phread Elite user md 486 Posts
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On closer examination of the name, S. W. Erdnase is E. S. Andrews backwards! ...his real name was javier lippshittz...
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10970 Posts
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I beg to Differ,,,,,,,, his real name was
DICK HURTZ |
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mc_magi Special user Vancouver, BC 949 Posts
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Yeah. E.S.Andrews was his real name.
I forget what E.S was for though |
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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On 2005-07-15 14:29, mc_magi wrote: Glad that's settled.
"Get a life dude." -some guy in a magic forum
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slakk New user 100 Posts
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According to Allen Kennedy, Dai Vernon was Erdnase's nephew.
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Samuel Special user Norway 831 Posts
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On 2005-07-15 13:46, phread wrote: Never say something about a person, or call him a name, which you will not say to him in person 
Samuel
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Chris Bristow New user Warwick, Rhode Island 67 Posts
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On 2005-07-15 09:55, Dave Forrest wrote: You are probaly right. This is what a friend told me so I just went with that. |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27309 Posts
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There is ongoing research and discussion, pages of it, on the genii magazine forum. So far, nobody has found the original or drafts of the book, layouts or canceled checks or receipts for the book - work that tie it to a person as author. For all we truly know, the book may have been written as a conjuring book with a gambling section at the back, or as two books, then a good editor may have taken the sections, reversed them and written a new introduction. For all we know a temperance leader may have gleaned the information from recovering gamblers and some conjurers and written the book. Perhaps there was someone named Andrews involved in the book. The search goes on.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Posted: Jul 15, 2005 01:21 pm 