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david_a_whitehead![]() Inner circle USA 2122 Posts ![]() |
Anyone has the newest edition of magic magazine? I don't have a subscription but I heard there was a review for Oz's Stealing Pips in it by Mike Close. Anyone mind giving a brief overview of the review by Close?
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Rich B.![]() Special user Philadelphia 632 Posts ![]() |
Mike Close gave it a very poor review. Pretty much stating that there was nothing new, some ideas made the effects more confusing, and its to easy for people to put videos or DVDs on the market resulting in poor material.
Rich B. |
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Mistro![]() Special user Canada 577 Posts ![]() |
Well I disagree with Mike Close. I think Stealing Pips was very good and not really confusing at all.
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bg![]() Veteran user Indy 313 Posts ![]() |
I think Close was making the point that all the material is something you may already have in a book/vid eventhough it is advertised as new or new handling.
He gave it one of the worst reviews I've seen. |
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Ron Reid![]() Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2733 Posts ![]() |
Hello:
Mike Close gave it a pretty lengthy review, but said it could all be wrapped up with three words, "Save your money." Ron |
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david_a_whitehead![]() Inner circle USA 2122 Posts ![]() |
I also thought stealing pips wasnt bad. I liked his explanation of the bertram change. I did find some of the tricks cumbersome and not one actually went into my repertoire. but that is just me I guess. as for the SAC move being revolutionary...ummmm...riiighhhtt. and the Oz Alignment Refinement?? that cant be considered a "move" really. furthermore, I was reading some more of David Regal's Constant Fooling 2 and realized his sticky mama is almost exactly the same as penguin magic's red hot mamacita instat download...im curious as to which came first.
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Greenshock![]() Regular user Vancouver, Canada 149 Posts ![]() |
Hey David,
Sticky Mama was published before Red Hot Mamacita, and in the magic world that's all that matters. (Although, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that Oz didn't credit Regal) Tyler Wilson |
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Jason Wethington![]() Special user Orlando, Fl 615 Posts ![]() |
Mike Close has a daunting job, I think he does really well with it.
I tend to agree with his reviews (I manage a magic shop) and I use them to make purchasing decisions concerning new product. Mike is correct that today with the abundance of home desktop publishing putting out a DVD (of which I too will soon be guilty of) or book can be less noteworthy than in times past. Jason |
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Review King![]() Eternal Order 14446 Posts ![]() |
Close realy blasted Oz in his review. Seems he took old effects and renamed them.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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S.Segal![]() Special user San Diego 949 Posts ![]() |
I have a question.... Why do you think Close's review is negative while the reviewer for Genii Magazine, Joe Turner, gave it a relatively good review in this month's Genii?
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Greenshock![]() Regular user Vancouver, Canada 149 Posts ![]() |
Hey S.Segal,
For the same reason that you and I may differ in opinion about a product. Everyone has their own opinion as well as their own criteria for what they consider to be valuable. Columnists are no different. Tyler Wilson |
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Review King![]() Eternal Order 14446 Posts ![]() |
Mike reviews "new"card effects to see if they are new or just re-workings of old effects by the Masters.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Nir Dahan![]() Inner circle Munich, Germany 1390 Posts ![]() |
Maybe close was also trying to attack the whole new trend of youngsters producing DVDs.
I do not know Mike Close's motives but I can relate to arguements of this type although they can generalize to a large extend. I also thought OZ's video was nothing new (to say the least - if it was not a public forum I would use harsher words) people just have to understand that creating new ambitious card routine or incorporating a color change in a routine does not make you a magical thinker. I think the magic community just suffered from the new plethora of "young blood" DVDs the material is of lower quality, the presentations are mostly "Blaine wannabe style" and the magical thinking is very poor. just because it is very easy to make a DVD these days doesn't mean that everyone should. |
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Greenshock![]() Regular user Vancouver, Canada 149 Posts ![]() |
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On 2003-12-09 09:01, Nir Dahan wrote: Hey Nir Dahan, I think THAT is the problem most people have with this DVD. However, it never stated to be full of new ideas or techniques so judging it based on originality isn't exactly fair. That's like judging a beauty contestant on her reading skills. It must be noted that I don't own this DVD (nor want to) and am not a particular fan of OZ. I just wanted to clear up a misconception. Tyler Wilson |
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Sven Rygh![]() Inner circle Oslo, Norway. 1945 Posts ![]() |
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On 2003-12-08 22:18, Greenshock wrote: ....and that's the reason why you shouldn't decide ONLY on background of a columnist's review. Columnists give in their valuable but subjective opinions, and at least what I do, is to get that opinion verified by others. Sven
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"Keep it as simple as possible, - but no simpler" http://www.svenrygh.no/sven-rygh/presse/nrk-forst-og-sist/ http://www.svenrygh.no/video.html |
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blindbo![]() Special user Bucks County, PA 790 Posts ![]() |
Close gave Stealing Pips a very bad review, summed up by his words "Save your Money". He called it "crap" as I recall.
He was very convincing, but I felt it was somewhat harsh. Maybe that is how it should be. At any rate, he turned me away from it. |
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trickster2000![]() Loyal user Toronto 289 Posts ![]() |
I thought stealing pips was beter than some of close's videos..
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marko![]() Inner circle 2109 Posts ![]() |
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On 2003-12-10 22:35, trickster2000 wrote: ![]() ![]() Well maybe my definition of a good magic video is different...
Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage.
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Alex Linian![]() Inner circle Peru 1277 Posts ![]() |
I also strikes to me as odd the fact that the Review on Magic Magazine was bad, while the one on Genii was really good; Any comments on this?
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bvbernard![]() New user North Vancouver, BC, Canada 95 Posts ![]() |
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On 2003-12-11 18:56, al_magicdude wrote: This has already been asked and answered above. |