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Posted: Oct 5, 2002 03:08 pm
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I want to get the book but his latest DVDs are said to be excellent. Is the same stuff he shows on DVDs in his Destroyers book?
The price of the DVD set is just beyond me for the time being and the book is only $30.
Thanks up front.
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Posted: Oct 5, 2002 07:27 pm
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Hey Pavlo,
Troy is a buddy of mine, and all I can say is that his stuff is GREAT! There are a couple things on his DVD's that are not in his book, and there are other things which are in his book and not in his DVD's. Bob Kohler did a great job of producing the DVD's, and Joshua Jay did an excellent job of writing it. So, it depends on how you want to learn the material.
I highly suggest that you invest in both. If you are skeptic about some of the material in the book, you HAVE to see the dvd's to notice that it can be done and that it plays VERY well. All the material in the book is EXCELLENT, and all the material in the DVD's are excellent as well.
Maybe start off with the book and learn it first, and if you are curious about any moves then refer to the DVD's.
Troy is very nice, humble, and talented. You will need to study the stuff in the book and DVD's though, but it will pay off. All the stuff is commercial and can be used in performance.
I hope this helps! The stuff on it is great. It is up to you whether you want to learn from a excellent book, or some very good dvd's, I suggest first the book, and later watch the DVD's to get a better idea of the actions. They are both a MUST have if you like visual, quick in the hands magic that will get a INCREDIBLE reaction from the audience. I use so much from the DVD's and books, and I am sure you will find this material as useful as I have.
Sincerely,
Doug-The Magic Sponge
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Pavlo
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Posted: Oct 5, 2002 09:55 pm
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Thanks a lot MagicSponge. I'll get the book as soon as I can. I heard it is an excellent book. Now I'm waiting for the Focus book to arrive and Destroyers is gonna be next on my list to get.
Thanks a lot. You've been very helpful. I'll trust you. Pavlo
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Posted: Oct 6, 2002 02:39 am
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Thank you for your kind response. I know you will be happy with deSTROYers. Also when you buy it, get a 'flipper coin' as it will prove useful when learning the stuff.
All I will say is don't pass the stuff in Troy's book up, it is great, practice, learn it, and use it. It plays well and is great.
Thanks again,
Best of luck with it all, you will not be dissapointed.
Sincerely,
Doug-The Magic Sponge
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Posted: Jul 27, 2003 12:54 pm
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I apologize for raising and old topic, but I too am thinking about about purchasing Hooser's book or dvd set. Are they very similar in material. That is, how many tricks from the DVD are missed in the book? Is it his best material that is overlapping, and if not, on which do you think the material is better? Does it use a lot of gimmicks that one might not normally have?
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Posted: Jul 27, 2003 04:23 pm
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A dissenting voice;
The book is realy exciting. The way the material is written, illustrated etc. and by no means least, Jay Joshua's incredibly fantastic coments about Troy, his manner, his delivery. And then, REAL LIFE, the DVDs. This is exciting, mystical, incredible presentation? A lot of it is, "watch this coin go here and then this coin goes there". I kept waiting for the magical experience for which Jay had set me up; it just never happened.
There is ONE routine that read so exciting well in the intro that I set it aside till last, like icing on the cake. When I found out that Kohler was producing that as a separate item --now that really is a bit much, putting out some effect on a DVD then holding back for $$ the "better" one as a separate item --I decided to wait and not even look at the item before seeing it actually performed. I never did see the DVD, but n the meantime, other locals began performing it. My evaluation, "it's OK. It's kind of nice, not earth shaking--not at all."
So, different strokes for .....MartyK
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Posted: Dec 31, 2003 02:25 am
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Thinking the book is very well written and you can learn most things from the book but of course it's harder for some then learning from videotape.
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Posted: Dec 31, 2003 06:57 am
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I have the book but not the dvds. I love the book, but I would suggest to you the Dvds since he has more stuff on it and his color changing deck routine.
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Posted: Jan 5, 2004 03:58 am
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I prefer the book over the DVD's for one simple reason: the book has his Charming Chinese Challenge which is great. That alone is worth the price of the book.
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Posted: Jan 5, 2004 04:39 am
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I had his DVD's and sold them I just didn't care for them. He might be creative, but kinda dull. Doesn't take away from his as a person or as a creator, just as a performer, for me.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"
..........John Greenleaf Whittier
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Posted: Jan 5, 2004 05:31 am
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I agree with Marty K that the writing of DesTROYers seems over-hyped. Some of the "just the way he holds a deck of cards is an incredible display of superhuman..." struck me as over-the-top.
I think the book (like most books) is a better value than the DVD. Of course, I haven't seen the videos, but the book is worth it for Charming Chinese Challenge.
IMHO, his coin routines are far superior to his card routines. I wish they would put all of his coin work on one or two DVD's. As it is now, you have to buy all three DVD's to get the coin routines.
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Good to here.