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Another L&L best seller.
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I simply ADORE all those L&L Women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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On 2007-05-22 07:51, lumberjohn wrote:
My favorite moment had to be on one of Jay Sankey's "Very Best" DVDs during his "Stirring Silver" routine when Jay did a gag move that not even a seven year old would have found magical and John gave his normal response of "No Way!" or something like that. Jay stopped, looked directly at him and said "Are you retarded?" John looked a little hurt for a second, but was back in true form within no time. Though it perhaps wasn't the most appropriate comment, I did have to give Jay credit for throwing a flag on some excessive celebration.


I would have thought Sankey had better audience management skills than that. He doesn't seem that rude and monsterous in his more current videos with audiences -- perhaps he's matured since then?

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I personally do not care about the women on the tapes. I buy a DVD for the magic, not the woman - there are better offers out there . . .

Frankly, it is difficult for me to understand this hype around the audience on the tape.
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On 2007-05-22 17:30, inidyls wrote:
Is it true that the L&L girls are putting out a calender?


Actually I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. I heard L&L are seriously thinking about this.
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The person you heard it from was not being truthful with you.
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On 2007-05-22 07:51, lumberjohn wrote:
My favorite moment had to be on one of Jay Sankey's "Very Best" DVDs during his "Stirring Silver" routine when Jay did a gag move that not even a seven year old would have found magical and John gave his normal response of "No Way!" or something like that. Jay stopped, looked directly at him and said "Are you retarded?" John looked a little hurt for a second, but was back in true form within no time. Though it perhaps wasn't the most appropriate comment, I did have to give Jay credit for throwing a flag on some excessive celebration.


I just watched this again and was laughing so hard.
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Holy Monteroli!!!!

Dude, I thought laughing at those who are mentally deficient went out with the dinosaurs!!!

I certainly DID NOT think there'd be any of those types of people on these boards!!!

I've lost a litle faith here.

The last time I saw evidence of this behaviour was when I was knee height to a grasshopper in the playground!!!

There's some SERIOUS reconsideration needed here folks!?!

Thinking caps on guys, let's NOT poke fun at retards, spastics, raspberry ripples or whatever you might refer to them as. They are HUMAN BEINGS, and unlucky ones at that.

I've said my piece.

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On 2007-05-25 16:37, Kip Stevens wrote:
Holy Monteroli!!!!

Dude, I thought laughing at those who are mentally deficient went out with the dinosaurs!!!

I certainly DID NOT think there'd be any of those types of people on these boards!!!

I've lost a litle faith here.

The last time I saw evidence of this behaviour was when I was knee height to a grasshopper in the playground!!!

There's some SERIOUS reconsideration needed here folks!?!

Thinking caps on guys, let's NOT poke fun at retards, spastics, raspberry ripples or whatever you might refer to them as. They are HUMAN BEINGS, and unlucky ones at that.

I've said my piece.

Kip




I was laughing at Jay Sankey and to my knowledge the guy isn't mentally handicapped.
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I'm sure Jay regrets it. He looked a bit embarrased immediately after he'd said it on the video. I'm surprised it wasn't cut or re-shot.
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On 2007-05-25 16:44, Trick Style wrote:
I'm sure Jay regrets it. He looked a bit embarrased immediately after he'd said it on the video. I'm surprised it wasn't cut or re-shot.


Actually , he's not sorry we were talking about this a while back. His words about this was pretty funny too , but I'm not the one to gossip . I'll let jay do that.
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I miss David in the audience, what happened to him?
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On 2007-05-25 16:37, Kip Stevens wrote:
Dude, I thought laughing at those who are mentally deficient went out with the dinosaurs!!!

I certainly DID NOT think there'd be any of those types of people on these boards!!!

I've lost a litle faith here.

There's some SERIOUS reconsideration needed here folks!?!

Thinking caps on guys, let's NOT poke fun at retards, spastics, raspberry ripples or whatever you might refer to them as. They are HUMAN BEINGS, and unlucky ones at that.

I've said my piece.

Kip


Dude, nobody is poking fun of the mentally deficient. John is regularly over the top and Jay was simply calling him on it. For many of us that have sat through countless exclamations of unwarranted amazement from John, it was a cathartic moment.
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Max Maven on the NOTHING set of DVDs explains that he insisted on a new audience for that particular shoot.
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Bring back Jon & David!... Smile ..
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On 2007-05-26 06:28, RC4MAG wrote:
Max Maven on the NOTHING set of DVDs explains that he insisted on a new audience for that particular shoot.



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On 2007-05-22 07:51, lumberjohn wrote:
My favorite moment had to be on one of Jay Sankey's "Very Best" DVDs during his "Stirring Silver" routine when Jay did a gag move that not even a seven year old would have found magical and John gave his normal response of "No Way!" or something like that. Jay stopped, looked directly at him and said "Are you retarded?" John looked a little hurt for a second, but was back in true form within no time. Though it perhaps wasn't the most appropriate comment, I did have to give Jay credit for throwing a flag on some excessive celebration.


I'll have to pick up the DVD just for that. I'm generally not amused when people use the word "retarded." But considering who it was directed to, that sounds like the funniest thing Jay Sankey has ever said.
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On 2007-05-27 14:04, Platt wrote:
I'll have to pick up the DVD just for that. I'm generally not amused when people use the word "retarded." But considering who it was directed to, that sounds like the funniest thing Jay Sankey has ever said.


This clip can also be found on L&L's "World's Greatest Finger Ring Magic" DVD. Good bang for your buck there.
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On 2007-05-21 19:47, Tim Trono wrote:
It is VERY VERY difficult to capture real reactions. Often when you turn on the camera people clam up. I've done productions where people are very vibrant in person and love watching magic but the second you turn on the lights and cameras they become like zombies- very uncomfortable, quiet, tense, no reactions, etc.
Tim


Tim,

You bring up a great point. The first shooting of my first DVD was completely scrapped because the audience, although the were friends of mine who love my magic, froze up when the lights and camera came on. Their reactions were too contrived because they were trying to "help" by "reacting." Had they just reacted the way the normally do when I show them magic, it would have been awesome.

They were just too nervous and self-conscious. Anyway, we ended up scrapping the first shoot, and redoing it without an audience. I've received some feedback about the DVD that we should have used an audience. It's a tough position. You have to sacrifice either way.

Louis is in a wonderful position like you said. He's got something that works. Frankly, I'm jealous. I wish I could get non-nervous reactions like he does on the L&L vids. So as it stands now, my current DVD and the one we'll be shooting in the fall are both to be audience-less. Smile
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On 2007-05-22 07:51, lumberjohn wrote:
My favorite moment had to be on one of Jay Sankey's "Very Best" DVDs during his "Stirring Silver" routine when Jay did a gag move that not even a seven year old would have found magical and John gave his normal response of "No Way!" or something like that. Jay stopped, looked directly at him and said "Are you retarded?" John looked a little hurt for a second, but was back in true form within no time. Though it perhaps wasn't the most appropriate comment, I did have to give Jay credit for throwing a flag on some excessive celebration.

I watched this twice today and this is what happened:

Jay is starting his "stirring silver" routine with a spoon. He does a bad ( it's supposed to be ) effect with the spoon and the audience laughs ( because they don't know what else to do ). John, who is right up front, jokingly claps for the effect. John is making light of Jay's "joke" effect.

Jay, being a stand up comic, seizes the moment and asks John "are you retarded"? Everyone laughs ( including a guy behind John, with a light beard, that actually looks retarded ).

Jay appologizes about using the word retarded and askes John "are you an idiot"? Everyone laughs ( including a guy behind John, with a light beard, that actually looks like an idiot).

Jay then says he was kidding and tells that John has been the nicest person there and asks them to give him a round of applause.

It was a fun moment and because the world is so P.C. these days, everyone walks on egg shells. Everyone is so over sensitive.

My Dad is dying of lung cancer. He's my hero and I'm so sad over it. But....The other day a comic told a cancer joke. I laughed so hard. It was funny. I didn't sulk and moan "he wouldn't kae those jokes if his Dad had cancer".

The world needs to lighten up.
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