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Jon Allen
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Magic2253711, what do you mean?

Jeremy, The set up is pretty non-existent and the reset is minimal.
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The Silent Treatment, The Pain Game, Paragon 3D, Double Back, Destination Box and more.
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James Fortune
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Jon,

Unfortunately, I can't see what you're showing the helper in the video.

It could be construed, therefore, by the audience that you're just showing him a picture of the Kings of Spades. In which case, they're reaction would be "so what?".

I'm NOT saying that is what you're doing, I'm just saying that is what it appears that you COULD be doing.

The idea is wonderful though. Very entertaining and a great opener.
Warmest regards
James

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Jon Allen
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The performance was done not for the video but for the 200 magicians in the audience.

All anyone needs to know is that there are many cards that the person can see.

It's not only a good opener but also works well as an encore piece.
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The Silent Treatment, The Pain Game, Paragon 3D, Double Back, Destination Box and more.
Available at www.onlinemagicshop.co.uk
deputy
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I just got this and I have to say I am very pleased. Easy to do, and it floors people
paisa23
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I might have to get this a lot sooner then I expected too.
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I bought this after I saw the,video.I think its a very clever,trick.All of the handling is,covered.The only problem I had was,people wondered why I didn't talk.(as I'm very talkative).Other than that.Well worth it.Especially utilising your facial expressions.
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This may seem like an obvious question but would a little background music hurt the effect? I've got it coming in the mail and I've got a school faculty show Dec. 8. Jon, while they laughed with you and your facial expressions for interaction are key, would some James Bond like mystery music in the background add to it or subtract from the presentation? Thanks.
Jon Allen
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I think that some background music would not go amiss. I have been trawling thorugh various instrumental pieces to find one that is suitable but haven't yet. There would be considerations to music such as timing, tempo and theme. Th music would need to reflect the effect whcih is not always easy to do. When I eventually get the stage version done next year (Hopefully!!!) then music will be something Iwill want to build into the routine. The main thing is that it does not detract from the effect.
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The Silent Treatment, The Pain Game, Paragon 3D, Double Back, Destination Box and more.
Available at www.onlinemagicshop.co.uk
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Hey guys... Help me out here. I really wanted to do this effect on Monday for a big event. I paid for overnight... And the DVD does not play on all three of my players. And there are no written instructions! I have the three extra cards that I guess can be added in... But I really need someone to call me on the phone and walk me through this... That would be so awesome...!! Help... 203 634 6712 D&B Magic.
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3 options -- 1, just don't do it. 2, call the shop where you purchased it. 3, call/email Jon Allen directly. Should be fairly self-explanatory, though.
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On 2005-12-17 00:39, bekralik wrote:
3 options -- 1, just don't do it. 2, call the shop where you purchased it. 3, call/email Jon Allen directly. Should be fairly self-explanatory, though.


4. Watch the demo.....
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Some people can pull this off some can't. It's not a difficult technique but the 'wallet' if you will is the smallest component of the routine wich plays HUGE with the right personality...of YOU!

I don't use it as an opener...however I've placed it between two strong effects. If I don't think that the particular audience is going to 'get it' or 'work with me' if they aren't going for that kind of material...and any seasoned performer can tell...then I skip it altogether and move on...you don't have to do every trick in your line up! You have to adapt sometimes.

Silent treatment is strong, funny and great addition under the appropriate circumstances...one thing though, I haven't used it as an opener...if you start with the card "loaded" already, the audience just thinks it was there the entire time, however if you have conversed with them before THEN the card appears...that's another mystery.

SB
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Some people can pull this off some can't. It's not a difficult technique but the 'wallet' if you will is the smallest component of the routine wich plays HUGE with the right personality...of YOU!

I don't use it as an opener...however I've placed it between two strong effects. If I don't think that the particular audience is going to 'get it' or 'work with me' if they aren't going for that kind of material...and any seasoned performer can tell...then I skip it altogether and move on...you don't have to do every trick in your line up! You have to adapt sometimes.

Silent treatment is strong, funny and great addition under the appropriate circumstances...one thing though, I haven't used it as an opener...if you start with the card "loaded" already, the audience just thinks it was there the entire time, however if you have conversed with them before THEN the card appears...that's another mystery.

SB
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Some people can pull this off some can't. It's not a difficult technique but the 'wallet' if you will is the smallest component of the routine wich plays HUGE with the right personality...of YOU!

I don't use it as an opener...however I've placed it between two strong effects. If I don't think that the particular audience is going to 'get it' or 'work with me' if they aren't going for that kind of material...and any seasoned performer can tell...then I skip it altogether and move on...you don't have to do every trick in your line up! You have to adapt sometimes.

Silent treatment is strong, funny and great addition under the appropriate circumstances...one thing though, I haven't used it as an opener...if you start with the card "loaded" already, the audience just thinks it was there the entire time, however if you have conversed with them before THEN the card appears...that's another mystery.

SB
bekralik
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I prefer having spectators think it was there the entire time. 1 in 52 ain't bad.
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Is the selected card always produced from your mouth?
Jon Allen
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On 2005-12-28 01:06, StuBeck wrote:
Silent treatment is strong, funny and great addition under the appropriate circumstances...one thing though, I haven't used it as an opener...if you start with the card "loaded" already, the audience just thinks it was there the entire time, however if you have conversed with them before THEN the card appears...that's another mystery.

SB


This has been brought up elsewhere with regards whether the card should 'appear' in your mouth or whether it should be in there from the start.

Personally, I think there is nothing wrong with the audience thinking it was there all along. That was the thinking behind the trick! "Oh! So the reason he didn't say anythign from the start is because he had a card in there the whole time. But that was the card I just thought of though!" Try it as an opener and see what reactiosn it gets... you'll never know until you try.

I have done it where I have been talking in routines beforehand then I go into TST silently. It also works. However, this is not a Card to Impossible Location effect; it is a prediction effect if anything.

Jon

p.s. The card is always produced from the mouth.
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Thanks Jon

I like demo looks good
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Excellent effect JOhn. Please inform us when the stage version becomes available. I'd definitely purchase it.

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When the trick is over, can you speak to the crowd right away, or is there some "clean up" to do first?