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Tony Chapparo Special user Albuquerque, NM 704 Posts 
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Prohibition is the hands down winner, as was mentioned in a reply before, you don't have to carry a bottle around with you and the vanish and penetration is a whole lot cleaner. The clean up is no where as figity w/ prohibition. Get it!
Tony Chapparo
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Charlie Justice Inner circle Mount Dora, Florida 1142 Posts
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I just want to add a thought here that I think is worthy of your consideration. I own and often perform Keven Parker's Passing Thru as well.
I bought it through a download purchase on his website before it was available on DVD, so I do not know if the DVD adds any additional handlings or variations. When I perform Prohibition, the atmosphere is lively. The specatators are plentiful & gregarious. The performance is open, casual and fast paced. But when I perform Passing Thru, I choose to be more intimate, subdued and even hushed. More often than not I only perform Passing Thru for 1 or 2 spectators only. With Prohibition I want a "POW" at that very moment of penetration. I'm looking for a smack upside the head that hits them immediately. With Passing Thru I want the spectators reactions to creep up on them. I almost want them to NOT believe what is going on until they hear that sliding coin jingle 'inside' the bottle right after the penetration. I want a "...what...the...?" to slowly sink in until I give them the bottle and THEN the realization of what just happened hits them. There are many ways to present both effects. I guess I just wanted to point out that the path to the reaction that you want to elicit is also not the same. Sometimes you want a "POW" and sometimes you want a "...what...the...". I own both. I use both. I sell one (lol). peace, charlie |
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Al Straker Grammar Host Australia 1130 Posts
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Hey all,
Prohibition - Better angles, naturla looking moves, cleaner at beginning and end, very visual quick moment where the magic happens. Passing Thru - Need to watch angles, slightly un-natural looking starting position, discrepancy that may be noticed (unlikely), magic moment can be sustained longer, slower penetration with potentially more visuals on the actual penetration, much trickier to clean up. Now what about combining the best elemnets of both routines and creating a 2 phase monster... Cheers, Al
Al Straker
Resident Mystery Entertainer at Multiple Venues Music & Mentalism Specialty Act 'Completely Mental' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyGhApqnG7I (Old clip, show has changed quite a bit since then!) Jazz & Contemporary Musician/Composer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnN3JNmeKns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU_zfOvpneA |
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waianaeboy702 New user 75 Posts
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Prohibition 2 thumbs up!
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Bobby Puga Loyal user El Centro, CA 201 Posts
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Prohibition...
Customized greatly...
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Jeff Inner circle Orlando, FL 1238 Posts
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Although prohibition is fast, it doesn't really show the cap 'passing through' the bottle at the base (where it is being struck.) The cap is arrived pretty much the traditional way (the actual REAL pathway of the coin). And, it does need the 'audible factor' to help sell the trick. Joe, this statement is simply false. Go back and watch the slow motion portion of the DVD then watch the explaination again. You will see that Charlie tells you to push the bottle down into your hand as it makes contact. This causes the cap to jump up off the bottom of the bottle and gives a clear image of the cap penetrating the bottom of the bottle. It's funny, I've seen a lot of people performing Charlies wonderful trick, but many are simply doing it wrong, including Keith Barry on Ellen. The subtlties that Charlie tips are what makes this the ultimate CIB routine but some are passing over these tips because the effect is simple to get down. You are missing the real work if you don't watch it again. Thanks Jeff Pierce Magic
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phillys Loyal user 232 Posts
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On 2007-01-23 10:50, Charlie Justice wrote: I'm going to quote an old-ish post but I really agree with what Charlie have said. They are both different effects for different reactions and crowd of people. I am only starting to learn the importance of gaining certain kind of reactions at different times to vary the atmosphere so that everything won't be two-dimensional. Kind of add the naturalness of magic into our routines. What do I think? Get both! 
K'Chai
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Chris Oberle Elite user California 444 Posts
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It would be nice if ALL CIB's could accomplish that.
Where the Coin/Cap passes through the bottle at the very point where the coin/cap meets the bottle, all the while where the bottle remains still and everything is completely & immediately examinable and you are left clean. Yeah, that would be nice. |
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Charlie Justice Inner circle Mount Dora, Florida 1142 Posts
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On 2007-04-02 10:08, hiphopperco wrote: You've just described Prohibition (cap in bottle) and its fraternal twin The Coin Accomplice (coin in bottle). peace, charlie |
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Chris Oberle Elite user California 444 Posts
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Minus the TRUE pathway of the coin.
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gmmagic124 Special user 751 Posts
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I too was able to pick off where the coin is really coming from in Prohibition right away.
It's just the nature of the set up. Because of its set up it cannot be seen to REALLY pass through the base. You do have to sell it. I agree Hiphopperco, If you could have an effect where the coin/cap really seems to pass exactly where it is struck on the bottle, kinda like in Passing Thru and not traditional ways like in prohibition, abyss and many many many others ... AND STILL BE CLEAN, than YES that would be great. |
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Jeff Inner circle Orlando, FL 1238 Posts
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On 2007-04-02 10:54, Flash Pro Joe wrote: Since when in Prohibition are yopu slamming the bottle down on the cap? Jeff Pierce
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Jeff Inner circle Orlando, FL 1238 Posts
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You obviously have not seen the DVD or you would know that pushing the bottle down in your hand is not the same as slamming the bottle down on the cap or coin.
Enjoy your search! Jeff Pierce
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Scratch72 New user 15 Posts
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I know this is a little off-topic, but is it imperative that you wear a wedding band on your finger while performing the effect? This would defnitely a dis-advantage to those of us who do not wear jewelry while performing.
Thanks guys! |
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gmmagic124 Special user 751 Posts
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You don't need any kind of band for passing thru.
Neither Prohibition or Passing Thru is completely 100% impromptu. BOTH do require gimmicks. |
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Scratch72 New user 15 Posts
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But for prohibition you do need a band? Thanks!
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Bobby Puga Loyal user El Centro, CA 201 Posts
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OH GREAT
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Scratch72 New user 15 Posts
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Don't worry, I'm done!
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Bobby Puga Loyal user El Centro, CA 201 Posts
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Lol, ok good!
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Jeff Inner circle Orlando, FL 1238 Posts
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Scratch72,
Charlie teaches hoe to do Prohibition with and without Jewelry, if you get my drift. Jeff Pierce Magic
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Posted: Jan 21, 2007 06:29 pm 